Feral

[Relaxxeu]

I'm feral and im weak in pve, what do i do

[kojeklik11]

buff feral..... :/

[Garn]

I believe feral is totally viable in PvE now with the recent buff and also some extra fixes that still need to be addressed.
You just need some good stats and energy management to keep high bleeds uptime.
I will post some dummy dps later today for those feral fans.

[Relaxxeu]

Garn wrote:

I believe feral is totally viable in PvE now with the recent buff and also some extra fixes that still need to be addressed. You just need some good stats and energy management to keep high bleeds uptime. I will post some dummy dps later today for those feral fans.

I'd be happy to see that dummy dmg and see if it is viable compared to others

[madau]

sure, is viable

Spoiler:

PVE Feral damage is garbage, you can do more on guardian than on feral so it's not a viable spec for now. Boomkin spec deals way more damage blindfolded by only applying the dots, casting the moon and waiting for procs.
That 16% increase gets you above 150k @single target with 870 ilvl and 890 ilvl weapon.

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/DUPLICATE-Druid-Feral-Bleeds-vs-Temporary-buffs-snapshot-t480412.html

are you reading my topic or just browsing on the page? wtf man?

I made a topic with a general bleed/snapshot bug and you say it's duplicate when only a part of the bug is posted?

IT WAS ABOUT ALL DAMAGE INCREASE BUFFS NOT BEING SNAPSHOTTED, not only the tf and sr.
Did you ever play feral druid? do you have any idea of what i posted there?

Garn wrote:

I tested it and refreshing Rip with FB will keep the initial snapshot . The general problem is that no spell is keeping the damage buff from Savage Roar and Tiger's Fury once either of these expires. These are already posted and known by devs, there is no reason to make a second post. Duplicated.

HOW DID YOU EVER tested ferocius bite and get to say that it will keep the INITIAL snapshot when the fking snapshot isnt working? Why are you even replying to the post if you don`t have any idea about what I posted? You could at least leave the topic open so you can learn about it.

@shockeru @quicksand - please take a look at this before you make only a partial fix.



Vengeance is in my heart, death in my hand,
Blood and revenge are hammering in my head.

[Erudax]

Alright, here are my results:

Spoiler:

I had to pick Sabertooth over Jagged Wounds because I simply didn't have enough energy regeneration to keep up both bleeds AND Savage Roar. Weapon was 883 ilvl.
Feral is no longer a meme spec, we can put it now in the "bad" tier. It still needs some fixes in order to fully work. Also, gear.

[Relaxxeu]

Erudax wrote:

Alright, here are my results: Spoiler: I had to pick Sabertooth over Jagged Wounds because I simply didn't have enough energy regeneration to keep up both bleeds AND Savage Roar. Weapon was 883 ilvl. Feral is no longer a meme spec, we can put it now in the "bad" tier. It still needs some fixes in order to fully work. Also, gear.

Man I'ma be honest with you, 200k dps is nowhere near viable .
I have about the same gear, stats are a bit worse, but with tryharding af i could keep up 230k on a dummy, And still, that is not viable my friend. We talkin on a dummy, in raids its totally different, in raids is impossible to hold that dps.

[Garn]

I agree with you that is not in a good spot but, what I am trying to say is that is not impossible. There are still things that needs to be fixed.

Here is my test without any flask/potion/hero.

http://i.imgur.com/Z2ayMZH.jpg

73% Mastery, 877 ilvl. I dont have any special gear for feral because my main is guardian. I have around 30 traits, haven't got the 5% damage increase one.

The problem is you need enough critical/haste to keep you bleeds as close to 100% uptime as possible on top of mastery.

Everyone knows this is not a feral patch, but who likes to play feral still can pull some nice damage.

[Garn]

@madau

If i rejected your report I did it for a reason. I am not required to present any proof when I do that.

But, because you still insist on this I show you That FB works as intended and actually snapshots the damage of Rip. I have around 60k Rip dot, 90k with Bloodtalons.

1 minute and a half of Rip debuff every tick with 92. It was casted only 1 time.

http://i.imgur.com/429mhN1.jpg

The problem is not Sabertooth . The problem is with bleeds snapshotting mechanic, bugs that are already reported.

[Wera]

How are things with cats today? How many DPS can survive?

[Garn]

Feral is working 100% like on retail now including snapshotting and pandemic effect on bleeds.

I will make a guide at some point including probably some PoVs .


Posting a new BUG REPORT has to follow the template you get when opening a new topic or it can be instantly rejected.

Freakz Lich King 25H

[Relaxxeu]

Garn wrote:

Feral is working 100% like on retail now including snapshotting and pandemic effect on bleeds. I will make a guide at some point including probably some PoVs .

Pls make guide how to dps race with warriors and dks in raids as feral :/