[DUPLICATE] Fan of Knives Combo Point Generator BUG

[Pingwii]

WoW Freakz spell link: Fan of Knives (rogue aoe spell)
Bug description: When "Fan of Knives" is casted on multiple targets it should generate more than 1 combo point. (i.e. 4 targets = 4 combo points). As you can see in the "proof section", when this is casted on more than 1 target, it generates only 1 combo point. I tested this in dunegons and outcome is still the same. After today's restart this started to happen.
Proof: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5EXHCmzbmk8:

[nyevid]

subject should be: [class] [spec] Spell1 (VS Spell2 / Effect)
. . . . /-instead of "VS", you can also use "&", if comparing spell to an effect-/

so the subject should be: [rogue][assa] Fan Of knives VS combo point generation.

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i never saw Fan Of Knives generate Combo Point PER TARGET. it was always 1CP. always will be.
it would be unfair if assa generated CP through AoE, because you got all that poison AoE shit.
see:

wowhead (wowhead link)

Ask Mr. Robot
^ claims that fan of knives should generate 1CP.

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but subtlety's shuriken storm Does and Should be generating Combo Point PER TARGET. you might've misunderstood.
Ask Mr.Robot

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[DeParanoia]

It should generate 1 extra combo point for each target hit with a critical strike via Seal Fate

[nyevid]

then that should be Seal Fate's bug.

not fan of knives.

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[Softis]

After Seal Fate's fix ( https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Rogue-Assassination-Seal-Fate-t484491.html ). This passive ability doesnt work at all, on FoK and mutillate aswell. You should get extra combo point for every crit from those abilities, but that never happens.

The spec is almost unplayable now, combo point generation is so much slower that its almost impossible to do regular rotation.

[Pingwii]

Fan of Knives should generate at least 1 combo point per target. See the next wowhead link: http://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-rotation-guide
and go to the "AoE Damage (damage to all targets)" section by using Ctrl +F :

"In situations where you have 5+ targets that will not live for long, plan ahead of tim
e, pool 5+ Combo Points and 80+ Energy, and use Envenom, followed by Fan of Knives + Envenom spam. Using this method, you can turn AOE damage into effective single target damage due to Seal Fate granting an additional combo point for each mob your Fan of Knives crits on.
If there are AoE situations with 5+ targets that will be alive for a significant amount of time, maintain the 3+ target rotation as described above."

"Cleave damage (damage to secondary targets)
Two Target Rotation: Maintain your regular rotation, but maintain a five combo point Rupture and poison on each target.
Three Targets or More: Replace use of Mutilate with Fan of Knives, maintain Rupture on multiple targets, and weave Envenoms in."

Since the so called "Rogue Fix" these 2 rotations are impossible to be done period.

[marvolo]

seal fate adds a combo point if you crit with fan of knives
but the base ability grants one combo point
look at subtlety's shuriken storm, that one generates one combo point for every target hit, as stated in the tooltip. https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=197835&&name=shuriken-storm
but i'm not expecting you to have reading comprehension.

edit:
and yes, seal fate doesn't work at all now, mutilate / kingsbane only give 2 combo points even when they crit. it worked ok saturday morning.

[nyevid]

hello there, brain-dead assassination rogues.

that ability must generate 1CP when you cast it. if ANY of the hits gets critical, you will have an extra CP. that is [Seal Fate].

in the guide mentioned, by @pigwii
it means you need to keep casting fan of knives until you get enough CP.

for ***'s sake. think about it. fan of knives applies poison to targets. a damage-over-time which is strong.
and now you think it should it generate even more CP?

see some retail videos.

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[Softis]

Im not saying it should work like Shuriken Storm, base ability should give 1 cb. "You should get extra combo point for every crit from those abilities". With Seal Fate, you usually get at least 2 combo points and even more on bigger packs of mobs, cuz they obviously crit, its not that rare. Also, When you have 100% crit chance ( http://www.wowhead.com/item=144236/mantle-of-the-master-assassin ), on 4+ adds you should get 5 combo points from each FoK, while right now, you get 1. And ofcourse, becouse of that, its impossible to keep bleeds on few targets and use envenom frequently. Dps decreases alot.

[ryangg]

@nyevid Can u stop posting if u dont know how a class abilities affects its perfomance ? with Seal Fate being useless right now ,assasination rogue is a joke ,I invested so much in this spec since it made me nostalgic by the time I was playing rogue in wotlk and right now this spec is unplayable without Seal Fate generating the right amount of combo points from meele abilities crits

[nyevid]

Softis wrote:

Im not saying it should work like Shuriken Storm, base ability should give 1 cb. "You should get extra combo point for every crit from those abilities". With Seal Fate, you usually get at least 2 combo points and even more on bigger packs of mobs, cuz they obviously crit, its not that rare. Also, When you have 100% crit chance ( http://www.wowhead.com/item=144236/mantle-of-the-master-assassin ), on 4+ adds you should get 5 combo points from each FoK, while right now, you get 1. And ofcourse, becouse of that, its impossible to keep bleeds on few targets and use envenom frequently. Dps decreases alot.

make a separate topic.
exactly with this name:
[rogue][assa]Seal Fate VS CP generation.

if you do that, obviously, our dev would find out the problem faster and will fix it sooner. which is better for you.

you guys want it to be fixed, right?

stop replying to this topic and make a new topic about Seal Fate.

because:
Fan of knives IS NOT BUGGED.
Seal fate IS BUGGED* (it should await confirmation)

make a seperate topic and make everyone happy.


Update @ 27-08-2017, 13:49:10

ryangg wrote:

@nyevid Can u stop posting if u dont know how a class abilities affects its perfomance ? with Seal Fate being useless right now ,assasination rogue is a joke ,I invested so much in this spec since it made me nostalgic by the time I was playing rogue in wotlk and right now this spec is unplayable without Seal Fate generating the right amount of combo points from meele abilities crits

AS I MENTIONED. that is NOT A FAN OF KNIVES BUG. stop

replying here.

make a separate thread.

ALSO.
i main rogue now. and my assassination's artifact is finally traited.

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[bobo27]

Guys it's already been confirmed you just have to wait now https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Rogue-Assasination-Seal-Fate-t485317.html

[nyevid]

see? go and like this post: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Rogue-Assasination-Seal-Fate-t485317.html

-_-

(i guess this topic will be marked "DUPLICATE" since it's all about seal fate.)


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[jmaxxx]

its true check 7:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7QDVp2tE90

[Lumpyxuscz]

Rogue UNPLAYABLE. ppl with http://www.wowhead.com/item=144236/mantle-of-the-master-assassin can destroy this item. I hope this will very early FIXED. Because this is big ........... I feel in this problem is PVP crying power. Idk who cried but this is absolutely bad and now you can delete 90% rogue spells, because now you need only mutilate envenom and rupture with - 60% DPS. Not chance in myt+ use kidney for stun or nextone spells , because 3sec waiting for 1x mutilate hit 100k and envenom once in 8 sec hit 250- crit 800k, rupture 24sec= between 2 rupture you have time cast only 1x envenom !!!!!!!???? . And Aoe 5x knives for 1 envenom HAHAHAHAHAHAHA xD absolutey shit. Pls fix rogue back or 80% ppl who play rogue will end with this server and next 20% have rogue only as ALT char. . This wasnt FIX, this was big step to HELL.