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Post Posted: 03-04-2018, 14:36:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz link: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/REJECTED-Druid-Guardian-Value-of-threat-t515329.html
Bug description:
I did not talk about the values ​​of omen, because in an old post you failed me, but I speak of the difference of aggro necessary to make aggro against what a paladin does. if you see the damage done by me and the paladin the difference is clear. or is mine right and then the paladin goes nerfato or mine is too low and goes up.
Proof: I made five videos in the old post

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Post Posted: 03-04-2018, 14:46:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Do riddle me. If you are having an issue with paladins generating too much threat, how come this is the third report on DRUID having too low threat? I demonstrated it to you that druids have no issue whatsoever with threat generation, yet you keep insisting on it. Druids generate exactly 10x as more threat as non-tanks, with the exception of some spells which generate even more (because there are spells that have more threat value than others)

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Use omen, it displays threat correctly. Find spells that generate more than intended on Paladin, or lower than intended on Druid. I can work with that. But so far everything I tested for guardian dudus works exactly as it should.
And try to test thread made by spells individually. Compilations like you did do not really help, because when a player starts to pump out a lot of spells/melee/procs/etc, I can't distinguish them to discover what gives more/less aggro than it should

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Post Posted: 03-04-2018, 15:00:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)


ok I'll get to work. however I continue to reiterate that something is wrong because it is impossible that a tank has problems to take aggro on mobs such as Skorpiron. the druid with 2 misdirection struggles to take aggro while a paladin or dk does not even need missdirection. on any forum that talks about threat it is said "literally" that any tank can make only one skill and go afk because it does not lose aggro

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Post Posted: 03-04-2018, 15:36:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Issues with threat on guardian were even on retail. U can find dozens of posts complaining about it.
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Post Posted: 04-04-2018, 12:08:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Maybe guardian had problems with aggro on retail but on our server it's even worse.Why?You may ask.Well, this happens often:taunting a boss from a paladin tank and after 3 sec boss goes back to paladin,that's how bad it is.


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Post Posted: 04-04-2018, 17:38:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)


I know what you're talking about and in fact, I'm having that problem with a paladin. the only thing to do is that the paladin stops attacking, even autoattack, and then the problem "solves". but they keep saying that everything is ok. we must understand for ourselves where the problem is and bring it back here because they are all in the norm

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Post Posted: 04-04-2018, 18:24:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Druid tanks are strongly legendary dependant (were on retail as well). Every good druid used thrash wrist/legs/moonfire shoulders to deal with add fights and threat. There is no reason not to use any of them as, for example, legs paired with rend and tier talent becomes strongest defensive wise as wel - 10% dmg reduction from all mobs. I find guardian being the best aggro holder for adds as long as you use correct build. Been tanking skittish without hunter just fine, so yeah, do the research on the builds first.
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Post Posted: 04-04-2018, 18:38:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

What Apheks is saying is right, this is issue with guardians having aggro problem is getting too far. People who complain about losing aggro should really go over a guardian guide in legion again.

On guardian compared to other tanks your damage is based on DoTs and Bleeds and is strongly focused on AoE whereas paladins have a stronger single target oriented damage.

DPS on freakz are bursting a lot harder than retail is normal to lose aggro, all you have to do is to play more offensively regarding itemisation and stats.

P.S: Stop getting Mastery item to get millions of HP that does not make you a better TANK !



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Post Posted: 05-04-2018, 01:47:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

i go haste/versa
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Post Posted: 07-04-2018, 01:42:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I don't have ANY trouble with agrogeneration. What are you talking about?
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Post Posted: 07-04-2018, 02:06:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Guardian druid aggro issues? Dafuq? I dont have problems offtanking as resto druid in bear form , first mangle aggro is mine even without taunts....


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Post Posted: 09-04-2018, 13:53:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Stayfjurt wrote:
Guardian druid aggro issues? Dafuq? I dont have problems offtanking as resto druid in bear form , first mangle aggro is mine even without taunts....


I HAVE TO AGREE....I NEVER HAD AGGRO ISSUES...MAYBE ON MYTH'S WITH SKITTISH BUT THAT'S NORMAL


PS BUGGY BUGGY WINS TITLES IN PVP WITH BUGGY BUGGY?

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Post Posted: 12-05-2018, 10:09:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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