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Post Posted: 16-05-2019, 18:49:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Bug description: This topic may get rejected, however I'm still going to do it. I won't go for the long explanation, ill try to make it easier for both you and myself.
The issue with UDK was Unholy fever, I was around long enough to know how you tried to nerf the Fever damage, while giving Dk's a strenght Buff.
That did not make it work properly, just made it worse. I would suggest simply to remove the strenght buff put to dk's, and fix the Crypt Fever.
The Fever issue is that there's a chance to inflict damage when enemy casts a heal, however, it hits every time, on any proc. A 200 heal from the player would trigger a 180-200k tick.
Aka there's no CD on the spell itself.
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I don't think there's the need for a proof, personally because you've dealt with it and you know about the problem. I am just giving you a suggestion that might actually fix the problem with
dks. They do not need a buff, they need a correction on that specific spell.

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Post Posted: 17-05-2019, 04:10:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Buff dks dont nerf them <3



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Post Posted: 17-05-2019, 05:03:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I mean, i did forget to mention, dks are known as a pressuring class, not instant burst. The current conditions of dk is that their instant burst is insanely high and their fever just adds another big shot to the table, sadly. Thats why the % strenght buff you added wqs unnecessary.
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Post Posted: 17-05-2019, 12:45:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

What strength buff are you talking about? Crypt Fever's damage was not changed since 7.2.5 release, neither was the DK's strength. I have no idea where do you have these information, but we don't do custom fixes like "nerf crypt fever and give overall str bonus". We never did, we never will. That's blizzard's job. If blizzard posted a hotfix to increase UH dk template strength, then we implemented the change. And again, we don't do custom fixes

The only fix that we ever did to CF after 7.2.5 was to reduce its proc rate by 30%: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Death-Knight-Unholy-June-20-Crypt-Fever-proc-rate-t545624.html

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Post Posted: 17-05-2019, 23:13:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

That never worked out, crypt fever remains broken. I remember there was a str buff to compensate for the fever.
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Death-Knight-Unholy-June-29th-Hotfixes-Crypt-Fever-33-damage-5-PvP-Str-t544320.html

You did not nerf the proc rate, you nerfed the damage, yet the proc rate remains the same due to date.
and by buffing pvp strenght, isnt this like doing nothing?
It's basically you nerfing the crypt damage, yet it procs on every heal ever, in addition every damage the dk does is stronger too.

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Post Posted: 18-05-2019, 12:17:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I will just leave this link here, to praise the fixed thingie
https://ibb.co/GRCCwS2

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Post Posted: 18-05-2019, 12:24:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/REJECTED-Death-Knight-Unholy-Crypt-Fever-t555710.html

I done one topic long time ago and they rejected it. Had 2s game vs a dk where crypt fever done 50% of his dmg (i was playing with a resto druid). Also look how i was taking 150k crits which is incredible broken as well. So i don't really know what was fixed or if the fix went live at all.

@Quicksand daca te uiti in topicu de mai sus, ala in video da 50k in bgs eu primesc 160k in arena. Un resto druid cu full hots ii scade HP daca are crypt fever pe el.



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Post Posted: 18-05-2019, 13:05:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

First of all, in your first topic, the damage was not yet nerfed. And no, 33% damage nerf is NOT compensated at all by 5% strength buff.

Crypt Fever deals damage based on your STR.

Let's say you had 30k Strenght, Crypt fever did 200% of that, meaning 2 * 30k = 60k damage (before modifiers)
Now you have 30*1.05 = 31.5k strength. And crypt fever does 150% of that: 47.25k damage (before modifiers)

That fix effectively nerfed Crypt Fever's damage by ~22%. (150/200*1.05 = 0.7875, aka it deals 78.75% of the damage it did before)
So no, you saying that "That did not make it work properly, just made it worse." is not correct at all.

I will check the proc rate, but as far as I see, it is hardcoded to have 70% proc chance instead of 100% (as it was on 7.1.5). Will come back to you with an update



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Post Posted: 18-05-2019, 13:59:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Okay, so:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ffF265J--xw:



"yet it procs on every heal ever"

So far all your claims were pure bullshit. Off to a really nice start of me never believing you anything ever again....

Out of 74 heal ticks, Crypt Fever did 14 instances of damage. 26 failed because it obviously has only 70% proc rate (26/74 = 35% fail rate, ~65% proc chance. If I'd let the total heal count go up to 1000-10000 ticks, you'd see that it'd be exactly 30% failed due to proc chance, but I don't want to waste any more time on this). And most of all, 34 failed because of the 1.25s ICD that is on the proc.

So again. Damage was nerfed, it has an ICD, and it has 70% proc chance. So I'll just book this under "learn to play issue" rather than a bug. If next time you want to open another topic on this with claims like you had here, better make some real proofs, not one screnshot from an arena match.

And if you think the damage is still too high, bring detailed proof, preferably with calculations on why you think it's not correct.



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