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Post Posted: 01-07-2019, 22:23:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=137639 (wowhead link)
Bug description: This ability is performing erroneous damage and is easy to see since no monk uses the talent of "Serenity" was weird since 7.2.5 was the favorite.
Proof:

The difference is 45% to 155% reason why it triggers when executing said skill




https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=137639 (wowhead link)

From 7.2.5 the skill in% never change in wowhead



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Post Posted: 01-07-2019, 23:07:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I believe is about using trinkets like Umbral Moonglaives/Infernal Cinders after using Storm, Earth, and Fire and the clones will do x3 the dmg of the trinkets.
Maybe a class moderator can investigate this, comparing 2 classes should be enough, but as I don't have a monk ww, I've check the warcraft logs and there are no monk at Goroth for example that is using Umbral Moonglaives and on our server all the monks are using Umbral Moonglaives vs single. -> Warcraft logs - monk ww - Goroth - 7.2.5 , for proof from freakz, check any geared monk (including donated all have Umbral)



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Post Posted: 01-07-2019, 23:10:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Other classes that use Umbral do a lot of damage too, so why is it your argument that SEAF is the problem and not Glaives? I've personally tested SEaF multiple times after the move from 7.1 to 7.2, Until then ill let you get actual proof with calculations and numbers in 3 days before i reject this.

And the reason people switched from Serenity into SEaF is mostly because by then everyone had the legendary wrists that complimented the T20 Gear



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Post Posted: 01-07-2019, 23:12:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The Spirits doing 45% dmg not 155% for me.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=2RVo_ciGp34:


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Post Posted: 01-07-2019, 23:33:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Vouchery wrote:
Other classes that use Umbral do a lot of damage too, so why is it your argument that SEAF is the problem and not Glaives? I've personally tested SEaF multiple times after the move from 7.1 to 7.2, Until then ill let you get actual proof with calculations and numbers in 3 days before i reject this.

And the reason people switched from Serenity into SEaF is mostly because by then everyone had the legendary wrists that complimented the T20 Gear


Moonglaives are properly working on single target and there are no hitbox bugs,the reason for using them on single target is either being a noob or bug abuse which in this case is bug abuse,it is a known thing that SEAF is bugged here and it needs heavy fixing since some spells hit up to 10 times more compared to retail.



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Post Posted: 01-07-2019, 23:40:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Well Meow's hunch was indeed correct. Just tested Glaives on WW. First try without SEaF, second try with SEaF and I can say that the numbers don't add up. Do keep in mind that in the second picture there was 1 Critical.
https://imgur.com/a/kBjKes1
Won't go into further testing.


And a quick mention about Serenity why it's not maybe used here is that CoF doesn't reduce its CD. And all the WW Monks used Serenity with Wrists on Retail, so your point is invalid.


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Post Posted: 02-07-2019, 00:33:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I the officer's tests refer me to "warcraftlogs" Ranking of top dps monks 7.2.5 and none using "Threshold Moonglaives" and Top Talents nobody uses SEaF

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/13#boss=2032&&partition=1&&class=Monk&&spec=Windwalker





End of accounts this was to see the reason why in the official monks with mitic tier they never took SEaF and their best dps in 7.2.5 in each boss more than 90% using serenity



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Post Posted: 10-07-2019, 16:09:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tl;dr

In 7.1.5 SEF modifed your OVERALL damage output (reduced by 55%). Blizz then said that Trinket damage should not be affected, as it is not copied by clones. I fixed this back in 7.1.5 and it was working correctly.

Now in 7.2.5 SEF no longer modifies your OVERALL damage, it rather modifies the damage of SPECIFIC SPELLS (see effect#0 and effect#1: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=137639)
So in 7.2.5 it no longer affects trinket. However the fix that compensated the damage in 7.1.5 is still there, therefore trinkets do ~double damage (obviously should not, this is the bug).

Clones and the player do 45% of the player's original damage, there is NO bug there whatsoever (50% with Spiritual Focus).

I will reject this bug as it is invalid, and I will keep https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Monk-Storm-Earth-and-Fire-vs-trinkets-t561206.html instead, because it reflects the real issue more.

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