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Post Posted: 12-04-2020, 18:45:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=190449
Bug description: Following the theory behind the this old post https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Hunter-Marksmanship-Artifact-Trait-Deadly-Aim-t508722.html, Deadly Aim Trait is being calculated again as additive instead of multiplicative.
Proof:
I tested using only the artefact weapon equipped. To maintain the test unaffected by my racial (5% dmg buff proc and Concordance proc) I added the line /cancelaura <name> for those 2 spells, used a dummy with a HP lower than 20% so I can raise my crit chance (benefiting this way from Bullseye buff) and casted 959 aimed shots (I was aiming for 1000 but server crashed - ). Anyway, the theory is the following:

Aimed Shot formula: AS=4.25*(WD+2.8*AP/3.5)

Modifiers which affect Aimed shot(considering current gear):
Acuity of the Unseen Path - 10% (From Artefact Weapon)
Windflight Arrows - 5% (From Artefact Weapon)
Wind Arrows - 12% (From Artefact Weapon)
Hidden aura - 12%
Mastery - 7.71% -> Converted to 30.84% dmg increase (7.71*4=30.84)
Attack Power - 15329
Weapon Damage: 27390-37059 ( Average value: 32224,5). The average value was also used in the calculus since now the weapon damage range is far larger than 7.2.5, making it harder to get precise results. This also requires many applications of the same spell which is why I went with 959 Aimed Shot casts.

Aimed Shot (theoretical value): (4.25*(32224,5+2.8*15329/3.5)**1.10*1.05*1.12*1.12*1.3084=358416.05
Tooltip Value for Aimed Shot: 356110 Proof: https://i.imgur.com/YmGM5J0.jpg ( the difference exists because of the way tooltip is calculated, using aproximate values, but the ingame damage is calculated by using decimals too - for example, using 1.3 for mastery instead of 1.3084 will yield us a result of 356115 which is very close to tooltip value)

So, we continue with the value from calculated AS , not tooltip.
Applying armor coefficient 0.680228 results us in an average value for Aimed Shot of 243804.63 which is very close to the Details average damage presented as proof (243184). (Armor coefficient from http://www.thrillofthewild.com/2016/09/stat-conversions-ability-formulas.html
Critical damage will be calculated 2 ways, additively and multiplicatively.

Additively:
2.13*358416.05= 763426.18
Applying armor reduction coefficient:
763426.18 * 0.680228 = 519303.87 (which is very close to the average crit damage reported by Details, which is 517445).

Multiplicatively:
2*1.13*358416.05= 810020.27
Applying armor reduction coefficient:
810020.27 * 0.680228 = 550998.47 ( which is not the average crit damage reported )

(The value of 1.13 or 13% follows the same logic as in the old post linked above).

So, Deadly Aim trait is not being included correctly in the Aimed Shot Crit damage formula. It might not be much, but with more gear, the difference becomes very obvious.

You can see my talent choices, gear, tooltip value and Details values here:

https://i.imgur.com/uFDZVuy.jpg

Also, you can follow again the results here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qQFiv_6C34q_mQqdMPatvdZj9LSwI5hIWTllqFghIro/edit#gid=0



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Post Posted: 12-04-2020, 20:03:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Great post from Kynext.
I couldn't myself work to show what's not working in marksmanship.

Again those results are explanatory! : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qQFiv_6C34q_mQqdMPatvdZj9LSwI5hIWTllqFghIro/edit#gid=0

It's a lot of work and still hope the devs will work to fix it.
Thanks!



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Post Posted: 12-04-2020, 21:23:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Hunter-Marksmanship-Deadly-Aim-t565381.html
Crit damage is 1+(1*1.13)=2.13 or 2*1.065=2.13



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Post Posted: 13-04-2020, 10:09:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Daggerinhead wrote:
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Hunter-Marksmanship-Deadly-Aim-t565381.html
Crit damage is 1+(1*1.13)=2.13 or 2*1.065=2.13


Never saw that post. Damn. Well, I guess it can be closed.

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Post Posted: 18-04-2020, 19:55:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Rejected.

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