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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 01:21:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BlackSun wrote:
Trecea vrei sa spui.
"Deterrence: This ability now allows the hunter to parry spells and attacks from behind as well as in front." - Patch 3.2.0


Ba tu te uiti la ce am pus eu acolo sau vi pe threadu asta numai sa adaugi la mormanul de gunoi? :/

chestia aia e pt restul abilitatilor dar cheapshot / ambush si backstab de la rogue trec prin deterence.

Tin minte o faza din hydra 8 cand rogu omoara un hunter prin deterence, revin cu link cand gasesc


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http://hydramist.net/blog/hydra-8/

28:15

Rogue omoara hunterul prin deterence cu shadowdance.



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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 01:23:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am tot repetat treaba asta in inspee mii de posturi.
Heroic Throw/Pyro/Overpower/Chaos Bolt/Cheap Shot/Sap(bine cu sap nu sunt in totalitate 100% sigur)/Ambush sunt singurele ...si singurele skille care trec prin deterrence. Tu nu realizezi ce aiurea suna ca backstab sa treaca prin deterrence? Un aproape random skill dupa parerea mea sa treaca prin deterrence.



http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/magtheridon/Ghicicine/simple
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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 01:28:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/My-Latest-Videos/Suggestions-by-Woundman-Final

post din wow riot facut tot de woundman:

* Deterrence:

Make Deterrence protect against Backstab.



Why: Doesn't seem right backstabbing a hunter multiple times thru Deterrence. -



Example:

(Backstab vs. Deterrence) https://youtube.com/watch?v=jockofdLprg:




GhiciCine wrote:
Tu nu realizezi ce aiurea suna ca backstab sa treaca prin deterrence? Un aproape random skill dupa parerea mea sa treaca prin deterrence.


- da hai sa ramana stricat si sa nu treaca pt ca tie iti suna aiurea . Are acelasi tooltip cu ambush, faptul ca zici chiar tu ca una ar trebui sa treaca in timp ce cealalta nu, e penibil.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Backstab

http://www.wowwiki.com/Ambush

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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 09:23:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Post pe mmo-champion forums:

"wrong, kidneyshot gets parried

@OP, deterrence is the only time you can parry things that are behind you, but it will not stop:
dots from ticking
overpower
rune strike
backstab
ambush
cheapshot"



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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 10:26:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

daca backstab ar trebui sa treaca prin deterrance, intreb doar, Shred n-ar trebui ? doar e same shit ....
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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 13:17:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

trece...din cate stiu.Blizzu oricum si-a batut joc de hunteri de foarte multa vreme mai ales acum pe cataclysm.


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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 17:12:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

este posibil ca pe retail, backstab sa aibe cod cu efect "cannot be dodged/parryed/blocked" si sa nu fie trecut in tool tip chestia asta.

dar nu prea are sens din moment ce oricum nu poti da parry/dodge/blablabla cand esti lovit pe la spate.

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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 18:04:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48657

Nu scrie nimic de cannot be dodged/parryed/blocked, trebuia sa scrie la atribute daca era, ca la overpower


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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 18:09:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

pe 3.3.5 stiu k trecea rune strikeul... deci banuiesc k si restul.. din pacat nam cums a aduc dovezi dp retail pt k:
1. e cataclysm akm
2. sa schimbat sistemul la deterence din cate stiu

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Assasinkata wrote:

[17:06:50] chяis ™: hi
[17:06:52] chяis ™: r u there ?
[17:12:27] *Assasinkata*: yep
[17:12:33] chяis ™: on 3.3.5
[17:12:40] *Assasinkata*: yep
[17:12:42] chяis ™: rogues can backstab/ambush
[17:12:49] chяis ™: hunters with deterence
[17:12:50] chяis ™: ?
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Wowhead (wowhead link) wrote:
Note that attacks made to you while your targets are stealthed will still hit you.(cheapshot pounce ambush garrote etc.)
The same Principle applies to shadow dance. While the rogue is in shadow dance he can ambush cheapshot or even garrote you.


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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 18:33:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker wrote:
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48657

Nu scrie nimic de cannot be dodged/parryed/blocked, trebuia sa scrie la atribute daca era, ca la overpower


Ti-am aratat posturi de pe gameriot, filme de pe retail, pvp muvi lu hydra. Cate dovezi mai trebuie? Ce logica e asta sa poti da cheapshot prin deterence dar ambush si backstab nu? Ca rogue de ce ai da cheapshot pe deterence daca nu poti face dmg cu ceva?

http://www.wowwiki.com/Cheap_Shot nici pe tooltipul de la cheap shot nu scrie " cannot be dodged parryed blocked " :/

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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 18:54:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

hunter care se plange de abilitati care trec prin detterence : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127129659
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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 18:59:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Madskill- wrote:
hunter care se plange de abilitati care trec prin detterence : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127129659

=> din primele posturi ca shred si backstab trec prin detterence
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what the guy above me said. shred likewise goes through deterrence- the things you know...

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backstab also goes through...

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If he didn't Shadow Dance, he would just Vanish -> Cheap Shot and kill you. He would also just continue to Backstab you considering you probably have no idea what you're doing and would be befuddled as to why you still take damage when you pop your defensive cooldown. It's not bubble (which by the way is rendered useless by ST or MD much like Deterrence is rendered useless by positional attacks and Cheap Shot).

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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 20:52:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tre sa iubesti compasiunea lu GC (Ghostcrawler) ptr hunteri.Pentru ca aproape in fiecare patch de la 3.0.0 in sus au bagat chestii interesante la hunteri dar aproape total inutile.And yea...ma plang hunteru e *** up din multe puncte de vedere.Mai ales acuma pe live


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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 20:56:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

pve chiar deloc.. pvp kinda.. oricum il bufeaza in 4.0.6

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Post Posted: 25-01-2011, 20:58:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

backstab si ambush trec prin detterence.
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