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Post Posted: 22-01-2011, 13:07:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok vreau sa incep cu... eh... SALUT! -

Aceste este charul meu: http://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&&cn=Lorethal
Dupa cum se vede am Spell Hit Rating capped si Expertise capped. Deci nu dau miss cu spelluri si nici nu primesc dodge de la pve lvl 83 bosses. Attack Power meu self buffed (adica totem) este de 6226. Haste este 356 (asta pentru a aduce armele la o viteza de 1.5 incat sa dau 2 lovituri melee in timpul unui Windfury internal cooldown). Deci am cam acoperit stats de baza pentru un shaman enhancement.

Ok sa trecem la adevaratul motiv al threadului. Shamanul meu ajunge cam la 8k-9k AP in combat deci implicit 2.7k-3k SP. Problema este ca DPS este foarte low pentru asemenea staturi desi nu am gasit nici un bug practic pana acum (nici nu am avut timp sa stau cu formulele de la spells in fata). Output meu de DPS pe PVE lvl 83 target dummy este de aproximativ 5.4k. Este doar parerea mea sau este mult prea mic? Ne uitam la urmatorul video:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Yrylk6tRVY:


Acest shaman scoate cam 14k-15k DPS in mod constant (da stiu are ICC 30% increase damage buff si raid buffs pe el dar totusi diferenta e cam mare...). Deci unde apare diferenta intre retail si Wow Freakz?

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To be continued. (adica voi reveni in 15 minute cu un scurt video facut de mine cu shamanul meu)

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As promised am venit cu video facut cu shamanul meu.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TjV3EldM934:


Dati pe 720p daca vreti sa vedeti cat de cat calumea. Astept pareri -.

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Post Posted: 31-01-2011, 18:19:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ce addonuri folosesti ? mai ales ala pt maelstrom weapons, de iti arata cate stackuri ai?
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Post Posted: 01-02-2011, 01:48:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

sunt departe de a fi pro cu enha shamy dar folosesc rotatia: shamanistic rage, stormstrike, lava lash, flame shock, fire nova, chain lightning (repet cu observatia ca o data dau flame o data dau earth shock) si scot un dps bunicel - (cam 10k la db 6k gs...)

insa nu rotatia vroiam sa o discut aici... ci haste-ul.. multi sunt de parere ca MUUULT HASTEE e bun pe enha - idk... dar multi ajung la 1000 haste pe enha si dau si ei onorabil (nu se compara cu top dpseri puri >> rog, mag, lock...)... tu cu 356 haste ai cam putin ... parerea mea .. - nush ce sa zic altceva... incearca sa vezi cum dai cu vreo 600-700 haste si poate observi vreo diferenta



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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 20:57:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

mozzila92 wrote:

Acest shaman scoate cam 14k-15k DPS in mod constant (da stiu are ICC 30% increase damage buff si raid buffs pe el dar totusi diferenta e cam mare...). Deci unde apare diferenta intre retail si Wow Freakz?


Chestia e ca:
1 shamanu enha nu are rotatzie ci PRIORITY list
2 Tipu scotea dpsu ala la boss+SPAWNS (additional mobs) si avea magma totem care e un bun dps incrase ca enha si IMBA PT AOE DPS!
3 Tipu scoate in medie 11.5k-12k dps si DA DPSU PE FREAKZ E CAM CU 10% mai MIC
Nu esti singuru care a "depistat" chestia asta insa primul care a facut-o publica -

Hope shockeru sau cine se ocupa de chestiile astea sa rezolve problema.

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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 21:05:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

eu am luat intr-o zi la rand talentele de enha si parca nu descoperisem nici o chestie dubioasa, o sa vad dacaa mai am pozele sa ma mai uit odata.
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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 21:23:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

sundaysfantasy wrote:
eu am luat intr-o zi la rand talentele de enha si parca nu descoperisem nici o chestie dubioasa, o sa vad dacaa mai am pozele sa ma mai uit odata.

Nu e nimic in neregula cu talentele pana si https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=63374 (wowhead link) merge (pe targeturile care nu sunt imune la slow ofc) e doar chestia ca nush pur si simplu da dmg mai mic. Si tipu din vid e can newb si nu stie sa scoata dps are doar 3-4 heroice pe el (pun vidu la final ca nush ce are o.O). E drept bl alea alea DAR eu cu fire elemental si bl si lupii pe single target (hc dummie) scot abea 7.5k ceea ce e aberant (omfg incep sa fol cuv de intelectual XD ) deoarece nu mai ia nimeni shamani enha in pve pt dps (buffa de +10% ap e de la un blood dk si cea de 20% melee haste e de la frost dk Sigh bl il poate da si un resto sau ele sham so no need of that shit).
In pvp also dmgu mi se pare slab in comparatie cu ce gear am -

Poate e doar o chestiie acolo care nu e calculata bine sau ceva de genu asta
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q_okv1DUUEE:


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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 21:25:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

pai de-aia am folosit dr damage si m-am uitat la formule sa nu fie ceva neregula, dar ochiul meu incepator n-a perceput nimic ciudat.
asta e, asteptam patch 4.0.3 unde rupe enha - 2k dps la lvl 70
ca sa nu mai zic ca in 4.0.6 il mai bufeaza un pic.

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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 21:30:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Uhm ochi de incepator sau nu si rotatia care o folosea cel de pe freakz si si cel de pe retail nu trebuie sa difere cu mai multe de 200-400 dps pe single target cu self buffs. Verifica gearu celui de pe freakz si a celui de pe retail. Eu zic ca se vede ca ceva NU e in regula.

Posturi unite automat, 08-02-2011, 21:30:21

nici eu nush dak mai stau mult pe wotlk e mult prea imba in wotlk enha shamanul 60-70k lava lash unde playerii in pvp gear au undeva in juru a 120k HP (THAT'Z 1 SHOT HALF HP)

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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 21:34:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

that's what i'm saying, abia astept lvl 85 sa fac ravagii.
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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 21:40:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da' pana at vreau sa vad ca scot si eu 9k dps pe single target aici sa stiu ca merge ok enha-ul - (btw joci acum pe cva cata server?Surprise )
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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 21:45:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

La mine in guild sunt mereu in top 3 la DPS in raids de 25. Depinde si de cum stau cu procs si cat de bine mentin "rotatia". Deci all in all dupa ce am aprofundat putin clasa e destul de OK enhancement shaman PVE. Si PVP pare ok doar ca inca nu sunt eu prea invatat... Mai deloc defapt. -


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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 21:53:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Si eu ma mentzin cam pe locurile 1-5 (wari cu shadowmurne si destro warloci care stiu juca) dar dpsu intre al meu (cam 9-10k pe single target) si a unui warlock/warrior spre ex e diferentza de 4-5k DPS. or fi ele clase de "pure dmg" si nu hibride ca si noi da' diferenta de dmg e tot prea mare
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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 22:04:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Prapadila wrote:
Da' pana at vreau sa vad ca scot si eu 9k dps pe single target aici sa stiu ca merge ok enha-ul - (btw joci acum pe cva cata server?Surprise )

no, pe oficial.

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Prapadila wrote:
Da' pana at vreau sa vad ca scot si eu 9k dps pe single target aici sa stiu ca merge ok enha-ul - (btw joci acum pe cva cata server?Surprise )

no, pe oficial.

cat platesti pe luna? (lei) ce realm?-
wanna hardcore'n'hard pvp? go bg9!

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Post Posted: 08-02-2011, 22:23:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

pai joc pe un realm unde s-au bagat niste tovarasi, Neptulon, si dau pe un prepay de 3 luni 100 de ron
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