Arena Solo Queue

[Shocker]

raven3 wrote:

I don't think the matchmaking based on mmr works properly. I heard the parameters in which you get teammates is +-300 mmr but that is certainly not the case. What happened to me today: I was at ~ 1840 MMR just finished an arena and I checked - there were 0 healers and 0 dps in queue Joined the queue and in ~ 20-30 seconds I get a game. And I got paired with a 1470 mmr warrior. So he wasn't in the +-300 mmr range and he wasn't in the queue longer than 3 minutes. I hope that this aspect will be fixed soon. PS. And I think the parameters should be lowered to ~ +-200 MMR

Do you have any proof at all for this? At least the screenshot from the end of the arena (or players name and arena date/time)

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[iordanluis65]

Shocker wrote:

raven3 wrote: I don't think the matchmaking based on mmr works properly. I heard the parameters in which you get teammates is +-300 mmr but that is certainly not the case. What happened to me today: I was at ~ 1840 MMR just finished an arena and I checked - there were 0 healers and 0 dps in queue Joined the queue and in ~ 20-30 seconds I get a game. And I got paired with a 1470 mmr warrior. So he wasn't in the +-300 mmr range and he wasn't in the queue longer than 3 minutes. I hope that this aspect will be fixed soon. PS. And I think the parameters should be lowered to ~ +-200 MMR Do you have any proof at all for this? At least the screenshot from the end of the arena (or players name and arena date/time)

Maybe he does not have but i do. and .

I had like 1800 rating less or more don t remember and I pick with that shaman also he was pve .

[raven3]

Shocker wrote:

[Do you have any proof at all for this? At least the screenshot from the end of the arena (or players name and arena date/time)

I don't have any proof.
I don't like to point fingers and name names but this is the guy : https://armory.freakz.ro/character/genesis/speedwon
At that time he had ~ 1470 mmr and I had above 1800.
If I remember correctly I got him two times in a row with minimum waiting time in queue.
The games were played on august 1 at ~ a short time before I made my previous post - you can check between 11;30 AM and 11:56 AM

[Amnezx]

@shoker have u thought about the rewards from soloq?

[Shocker]

raven3 wrote:

At that time he had ~ 1470 mmr and I had above 1800.

That's partially intended. Even if he had 1470 MMR and you had 1800, your whole team's average was ~same as the average of the other team. This is exactly how it is in normal queue too: if you have 1000 MMR and your partner has 2000 MMR, you will be queued up with players with +/- 1500 MMR (1000 + 2000 / 2 => average 1500). Checking everyone's personal MMR against everybody else's personal MMR and not team averages would cripple or kill the queue even more

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[Amnezx]

Amnezx wrote:

@shoker have u thought about the rewards from soloq?

also, have u thaught about implementing duo que?

[raven3]

Shocker wrote:

That's partially intended. Even if he had 1470 MMR and you had 1800, your whole team's average was ~same as the average of the other team.

I know what you are saying but for healers this is very problematic.
In my instance for example, I have over 1800 rate and the average team mmr is somewhat at 1650 mmr.
Usually what happens is that to average that 1650 mmr I get in teams with the lowest mmr players available.
And so.. for a healer you have absolutely no chance of winning.

Amnezx wrote:

Amnezx wrote: @shoker have u thought about the rewards from soloq? also, have u thaught about implementing duo que?

I don't think duo queue is an option.
That's why people were banned for the solo queue abuse when they cheated to get in the same team - they had a very big advantage over the other players. In the top 20 almost everyone was a sistem abuser.

But if you are talking about duo queue being attached to the 3v3 bracket then I'm all for it.
Something like you queue with your friend with the option "duo queue linked to 3v3 rated", you are paired with another player who joins solo and you join against turbo, bossutai and welcomeback who are waiting in queue at 3v3.
that would be okey cause it would be your choice to risk your rating queuing only two + another random player.

[Amnezx]

raven3 wrote:

Shocker wrote: That's partially intended. Even if he had 1470 MMR and you had 1800, your whole team's average was ~same as the average of the other team. I know what you are saying but for healers this is very problematic. In my instance for example, I have over 1800 rate and the average team mmr is somewhat at 1650 mmr. Usually what happens is that to average that 1650 mmr I get in teams with the lowest mmr players available. And so.. for a healer you have absolutely no chance of winning. Amnezx wrote: Amnezx wrote: @shoker have u thought about the rewards from soloq? also, have u thaught about implementing duo que? I don't think duo queue is an option. That's why people were banned for the solo queue abuse when they cheated to get in the same team - they had a very big advantage over the other players. In the top 20 almost everyone was a sistem abuser. But if you are talking about duo queue being attached to the 3v3 bracket then I'm all for it. Something like you queue with your friend with the option "duo queue linked to 3v3 rated", you are paired with another player who joins solo and you join against turbo, bossutai and welcomeback who are waiting in queue at 3v3. that would be okey cause it would be your choice to risk your rating queuing only two + another random player.

yup, duo que linked to both soloq and 3v3

[Hawtydaboss]

I actually liked a lot what Raven said.Add duo que and make it so if Y + X que they get matched with Z player and they're able to face another Duo Q team or 3v3 team in queue.

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[bossutai]

Something must be done about this:

My partner: http://imgur.com/a/SfPJr
Me: http://imgur.com/a/9jf0W

There's no way we can play in the same team with this difference in rating/mmr. Seriously....the team that has a player who won only 2 matches at soloq has no chance of actually winning the game.

[Shocker]

Please stop posting random screenshots and understand: THERE IS NO BUG. IT'S INTENDED. Read previous posts why

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[bossutai]

I think You don't get IT, so i'll explain this (i thought IT was abvious). I know this is not a bug, BUT THIS is not normal. Why? It's called RATED ARENA for a reason. There where atleast 10 playere at that moment that queued at soloq and i get with that Monk that was the lowest of all. Don't You see anything abnormal in this?

[Shocker]

No, read previous posts why, that monk has to play too

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[Hawtydaboss]

I get this a lot too.I think the problem here is that there is no priority,for example if there are 6 people queing at equal mmr to yours(or at least in the mmr range)it will not prioritize them,but prioritize the monk,because he waited for too long.

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[Shocker]

Hawtydaboss wrote:

I get this a lot too.I think the problem here is that there is no priority,for example if there are 6 people queing at equal mmr to yours(or at least in the mmr range)it will not prioritize them,but prioritize the monk,because he waited for too long.

So by your logic if for 10 years there are still people in queue with equal MMR, the monk will wait 10 years in queue? Please STOP discussing about this topic, as mentioned I already replied in the previous posts detailed info on why IT IS OK, stop polluting this topic with useless discussions

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