[Azerite Trait] Apothecary's Concoctions

[Dwynen]

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Character name: Royd
Bug description: The azerite trait [Apothecary's Concoctions] is behaving in a weird way. It gives two effects, a chance to trigger a damaging spell when you attack and a chance to trigger a healing spell when you use a healing skill. Now, the issue is, when you are actively attacking your target, the healing process doesn't trigger, it only triggers when you are not attacking. I think the problem is that they are somehow "sharing" the internal cooldown, so, when the attacking effect triggers, the other one can't trigger and they should be independent.
Proof: I've been testing it for hours with the tanking dummy and any other adds and it's behaving exactly as described above.

[Teylor]

Hello,

Could you please add Proofs of the Issue occuring?

[Dwynen]

Ok, i don't know how to record videos, so i'm gonna show it with screenshots (and the explaining).

1. Let's say i'm NOT attacking my target, only receiving damage and using any healing spell that triggers the azerite trait (could be passive or active, in this example, [Impassive Visage]). That triggers normally the "healing part" of [Apothecary's Concoctions]. I can let this go for as long as i want and it triggers correctly every single time (it has a real high uptime, so i'm 100% sure it's not just random bad/good luck). It basically triggers every time [Impossive Visage] triggers.



2. Now, if i'm ATTACKING my target (and proc'ing the "damage part" of [Apothecary Concoctions]), the "healing part" will never trigger, doesn't matter how long i let the fight go or how many healing spells i use. I've tested it a million times soloing elite world bosses and it just doesn't trigger.



The only explaining i can guess is that the internal cd of the "damage part" of the trait is preventing the "healing part" from triggering.

[Dwynen]

Any updates on this? I posted the ss almost a month ago.

[Dwynen]

@Teylor?

[Mighty]

Any retail proof with someone having both buffs active at the same time? Since they share the same buff icon for both dmg part or healing part that means they must share an icd.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/apothecaries-concoctions/56721/2

[Dwynen]

@Mighty

What you are saying would make any sense if both effects would came from the same AURA, since then, by strict definition, they would share the same cd, but the two effects come from different spells:

- The healing one is [Apothecary's Salve] (https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=287639&&name=apothecary-s-salve)
- The DoT one is [Apothecary's Blight] (https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=287638&&name=apothecary-s-blight)

This is a bug, not a cd share, [Apothecary's Blight] has NO internal cd, it can proc. while it's still active, hence, even if your theory was correct and they both had the "same cd", that cd would be 0s and they should be able to proc at the same time.

There you have a screenshot i just took on the dummy where it proc'ed while it was still active (check the duration, 7s). You can test it yourself and will see that it can proc multiple times, even stacking the duration.






EDIT: Now [Apothecary's Salve] is not even proc'ing from [Impassive Visage] since when i first opened this topic; i just let [Impassive Visage] to proc more than 50 times and nothing:

[Mighty]

Ik they have different spell id's, was a theory, i dont recall a buff which came from the same item and with the same icon stacking twice independently one of another recently. What ive meant by sharing cd was that while u had lets say the dmg buff active u cant have the healing buff unless the dmg one ends. They can proc into proc if its the same buff. Also it might be a ppm thing, since they share ppm u must have been out of procs to get the other one. Impassing vissage shouldnt trigger the healing part since class abilities only should trigger it not azerite traits which got fixed at the start of 8.2 https://trello.com/c/WebBXG3q/685-spells-that-should-only-proc-from-class-abilities. As for the proof part u still havent provided any retail proof just ingame freakz pictures.

[Dwynen]

But Mighty, how is that a valid argument? I don't have a retail account to test it there, and even if i had, they are now in Shadowlands.

The skill tooltip doesn't say absolutely anything about them sharing some sort of internal cd, how could you even assume that in the first place to code it that way?

Update: Now the trait went completely bananas, i SWITCHED it out to [Nothing Personal] and the healing part is still proc'ing (I don't have the trait learned at this moment) xD