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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 00:15:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=54049

Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Dmg normal mult prea mare (fara dots,talents,etc).

Dovada / Proof:
Shadow Bite:
Bite the enemy, causing 142 + 61.4% of SP Shadow damage plus an additional 30% damage for each of your damage over time effects on the target.

Cu 6617 SP da ~ 4890 non-crit (fara dots + destro talents aka no dmg increase) si conform formulei trebuie sa dai 4062.


Aveam si alte prints in vechiul topic dar aparent cineva l-a sters http://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-2640940.html (nu prea e corect , dar w/e).

Cu dots pe target + talente se ajunge la cifre astronomice , gen 23k noncrit pe 4.3k resil (in duel test no berserking sau buffs)



PS: Trebuie cautat daca influenteaza ceva pe aff spec exagerat de mult acest spell, pentru ca 23k noncrits / 46k+ crits pe full pvp targets fara buffs sau berserking este enorm.

//LE:
Ok inca o problema la Dark Arts, creste prea mult dmg.

Fara Talent:


Cu talent:


In loc de 7900+ dau 8100+




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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 00:45:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I cant see any problem -

I've play'd friend's warlock on 4,3 cata ( Btw Official ) and I did 57K Shadow Bite - ... Normaly ( Geared pl ) 8-13k Crits 18-24k - (

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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 01:38:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Deci tu ai zis ca la 5900 HP dai 6.7k dmg cu shadowbite non crit


Dupa cum se vede in printul meu cu 9500 sp dau 6.2k pe un player care avea 4.4k resil,cand am facut dmg pe tine aveam full procs+burst unde ajung la 14k sp,intr-adevar e un numar mare ce ti-am dat eu tie acolo,dar faza e ca pe alti playeri dau mai putin,poate sa fie greseala mea,ca playerii respectivi sa fi avut shadow resist de unde petul meu nu beneficiaza de spell penetration-ul meu.

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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 01:56:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nvm am gasit pe cineva sa ma ajute partial, ramane sa vad ce ar putea influenta mai mult pe aff spec spellul de prinde asemenea proportii.



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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 06:59:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

From the beginning the spells damage is too big.
It is possible to do 57k crits or w/e but not in PVP and not with the current gear level.

The most simple way you can see this is by hitting someone without any dot effects and comparing the damage you did with the one displayed in the spells tooltip. Tooltips are ~98% correct.



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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 10:03:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

topic useless posted by a random ppl

 
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astia care spuneti ca merge bine. bagati-va mintile in cap. damageul fara dot-uri pe target este prea mare. am gear destul de slab(full vicious cu 2 iteme cataclysmic) si am prins 14k crit pe cineva fara dots+coe.

din cate imi aduc aminte cand era 4.3 pe retail in pvp cu full pvp gear+rathak hc nu am dat niciodata mai mult de 28k crit. si aici honourless a primit 22k non crit.

un pic off topic: damageul intradever este prea mare, dar macar compenseaza pentru bugul la dispell UA. pentru ca vs healing teams nu poti avea dots pe target in momentul de fata




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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 13:26:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

eu am prins 4-8k doar cu spell fara alt cv cum poti zice ca ai dat tu 14k pe ce ai dat pe un moob de lvl 1



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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 13:27:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

tooltipul spelului pentru patchul 4.3.4

http://www.wowpedia.org/Shadow_Bite

Bite the enemy, causing (X + (0.614 * [spell power])) Shadow damage plus an additional 30% damage for each of your damage over time effects on the target.

alta sursa DB-ul de pe wowhead din patchul 4.3.4 salvat in arhiva http://db.mmo-champion.com/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/54049/shadow-bite/

Bite the enemy, causing [142 + 61.4% of SP] Shadow damage plus an additional 30% damage for each of your damage over time effects on the target.

se vede ca sunt identice ca si spell power coefficients.

singurul nerf pe care il primeste este in MOP
5.0.5 - Hotfix (2012-09-18): "Shadow Bite damage has been reduced by 25%."
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/7207170

CALCULE:
Shadow Bite's damage is increased by 30% for each of your damage over time effects on the target. This includes [Immolate], [Corruption], Banes and the [Burning Embers] effect.

cel mai mare damage il da pe Affliction
este influentat de:
http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/87339/ (25% shadow damage)
nu este influentat de mastery pe affli. pentru ca mastery mareste damage-ul doar la doturile cu shadow damage "Increases all periodic shadow damage you deal"
deci nu trebuie luat in seama mastery (posibil sa fie aici problema de unde isi ia atata damage)
Unstable Affliction - 30% damage
Corruption - 30% damage
bane - 30% damage
http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/47200/deaths-embrace/ 12%
http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/1490/curse-of-the-elements/ 8%

deci formula ar trebui sa fie ceva de genu:

[base pet lvl 85 142 + 61.4% of SP] * 1.25 (Shadow Mastery) * 1.3(Unstable Affliction) *1.3(Corruption)*1.3(bane)*1.08 (Curse of the Elements) * 1.12 (deaths-embrace daca este cazul target sub 25% hp) = X

WARLOCK ruth + cata gear 10-12k sp normal (cu burst + procs + bufs 15-16k sp) ar trebui sa dea 20-30k crit pe resil targets.
se vede mai jos cum se plangea lumea de crituri de 20k + pe 4k resil
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4044465497
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2000495653

din ce vad problema pe freakz este ca prinde acelasi damage ca pe retail doar ca este noncrit -



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Post Posted: 15-02-2013, 17:54:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Da dmg-ul este putin mai mare decat trebuie dar vezi ca ai gresit:
1.Shadow Mastery este 30% nu 25% (mareste tot shadow dmg-ul cu 30% nu doar dot dmg, potent afflictions mareste doar dot dmg in functie de cat mastery are warlock-ul deci .. da nu influenteaza shadowbile dar ai uitat sa specifici ca este vb de Porent Affliction)
2.Ai uitat de Dark Arts 15% dmg la shdowbite.

Lock are si cva buguri "negative" haste-dot,ua dispell,pet hp-resil ...
Sa speram ca se rezolva curand.

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durhan. pe langa toate acele dots care le-ai luat tu in considerare mai adauge si shadowflame + drain life/soul si acelea tot doturi sunt


Later edit : acum am observat o chestie. titanlock are rathak hc . acea arma pune un dot pe target ce da nature damage, dar acel dot nu ar trebui sa se ia in considerare cand shadow bite da damage. chiar si fara acel extra dot damageul tot mare este




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@ durham ai luat in calcul si ce s-a schimbat pe 4.1.0?
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Shadow Bite (Felhunter) damage and effect has doubled, and is now available at level 30, down from 42.
intr-adevar damageu' este mare. momentan oarecum compenseaza bugul de la UA si corr. sa speram ca va fi reparat cat de curand.



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Nemoboyz wrote:
@ durham ai luat in calcul si ce s-a schimbat pe 4.1.0?


Ce intrebare e asta, atata timp cat formula este de pe 4.3?




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Post Posted: 16-02-2013, 19:47:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

doar intrebam. pt ca pe wowhead e diferita formula. si nu,nu este de pe Mist.
http://old.wowhead.com/spell=54049



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Diferenta este foarte mica (sp coeff e acelasi, lucrul cel mai important), cu oricare din ele ai calcula , rezultatul este ~ acelasi.
Indiferent pe care o folosesti, e mult mai buna decat cea actuala.




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