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[FIXED] [Death Knight][Unholy] Virulent Eruption damage in instanced pvp

 
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Post Posted: 15-04-2020, 13:07:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=191685&&name=virulent-eruption
Bug description: I noticed that Virulent Eruption is almost all the time the #1 dmg for unholy dk's in pvp so I did a little digging.
Here is usually doing more damage than Vigulent plague itself but I watched 3 videos from retail and in neither managed to do that. Usually it does between 30% and 60% of virulent plague's damage.

https://imgur.com/a/d9BBDF0 - 1.2M vs 835k
https://imgur.com/a/s3O2WOJ - 2.9M vs 1.35M
the above are probably without ebon plaguebringer
with Ebon Plaguebringer : https://imgur.com/a/65SMjAt - 29M vs 12M

here is like this : https://imgur.com/a/AIScolH - aprox equal 6.7M vs 6.7M

What is interesting from this video : https://youtube.com/watch?v=RKosnCcNcxI:

is that @ 7:18 min mark the guy starts to hover over the abilities:
What we can see is (Keep in mind that is TOK and the max hits could be hugely inflated by ORB damage increases but after hundreds of ticks , the average damage should be reliable) :

Virulent plague average damage per tick is 34.5k after 500+ ticks
Virulent eruption average damage per hit is 16.1k after 500 + hits

Virulent eruption works that if it hits multiple targets the damage is distributed among them so in a bg setting is normal that the VE tick is smaller.

How it is here in bg setting(a lot of the time hitting multiple targets): https://imgur.com/a/AIScolH
Virulent plague damage per tick ~33k after 120 ticks ---> this is a match for the 34.k damage on retail (given it was tok bg).
Virulent eruption damage per hit is 35.5k after 107 hits ---> this is aprox double than the 16.1k dmg on retail.

I think all things point to virulent eruption doing ~ double the damage it should be doing and my guess is that the virulent eruption part of the virulent plague spell isn't affected by the 45% pvp multiplier that dot receives right now.





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Post Posted: 15-04-2020, 14:43:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Everything is wrong about dks . Pz take a look at necrotic strike heal absorbs . Dks can stacks them over 1.8m heal absorbs in a 5s stun .
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Post Posted: 17-04-2020, 23:34:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

It's true that it's on par as the DoT itself in overall , which could imply that the Erruption isn't affected by the PvP nerf to 45% of effectivness , there would be no other explanation my Erruption damage was 73k Crit / 42k non crit avg in Silver Shard mines and my virulent plague damage was 50k cirt /35 k non crit avg .

I didn't check my exact stats but I'll do the math behind it aswell as additional confirmation .

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Post Posted: 22-04-2020, 16:14:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok, I'm new here but I've noticed Unholy DK's damage being, to put it lightly, over the top.
Here's what I've gathered as data to support the fact that Virulent Eruption is indeed broken.

Virulent Eruption has a 30% chance to erupt every time Virulent Plague deals damage.
This is recorded in 2vs2 from last night, as you can see from the screenshot, Virulent Eruption has erupted 67.7% of the time Virulent Plague has proc'd which is 37.7% higher than it's supposed to.

IMG: https://i.imgur.com/6wXftWW.jpg

Also, here it says that Virulent Plague should deal 74% of attack power i.e. strength since patch 7.3.0 while Virulent Eruption deals 106%, which is a 32% damage increase for Virulent Eruption over Virulent Plague.

Virulent Eruption

And here's a recount of Virulent Plague's damage:

IMG: https://i.imgur.com/KWiJR1N.jpg

Comparing it to the recount from the picture above you can clearly see that Virulent Eruption's average damage is 226% higher than that of Virulent Plague.

If my calculations are corrent, please consider fixing this as soon as possible, because I look forward to playing arenas here but every time I get to play against an unholy death knight, I die on the inside.



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Post Posted: 22-04-2020, 20:31:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The proc chance I think it works ok.
You can get more than 30% hit chance from virulent eruption and I will explain how.
Say one target has virulent plague on him and then move closer to his teammate who doesn't have virulent plague - it erupts and does dmg on two targets . The percent grows if there are permanent of temp pets.
But the dmg is way too big and should be fixed as soon as possible because dk pressure with this bug + bugged dark arbiter is something else..





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Post Posted: 22-04-2020, 21:10:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

raven3 wrote:
The proc chance I think it works ok.
You can get more than 30% hit chance from virulent eruption and I will explain how.
Say one target has virulent plague on him and then move closer to his teammate who doesn't have virulent plague - it erupts and does dmg on two targets . The percent grows if there are permanent of temp pets.
But the dmg is way too big and should be fixed as soon as possible because dk pressure with this bug + bugged dark arbiter is something else..


This was a 2vs2 match with me(a rogue) and a rdruid against an unholy dk and a rdruid.
The math doesn't lie, the proc chance is too high aswell, it doesn't matter if only I had it or if ten other people had it.
You can see that there have been 447 procs of damage dealt by Virulent Plague, considering it has 30% chance to proc, Virulent Eruption should've only dealt damage approximately 134 times , but you can see that it dealt damage 303 times which is way off, being more than double.
Virulent Plague tooltip clearly states this - " It erupts when the infected target dies, dealing Shadow damage divided among nearby enemies, and has a 30% chance to erupt each time it deals damage." you don't get a Plague Eruption by
stacking with someone and if you do, you're not supposed to, only if someone dies from it or it procs.



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Post Posted: 23-04-2020, 01:18:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

It does AoE damage and recount counts only hits . If you show me correct numbers on which target did what and how many times sure I'll take it into consideration . But look at this https://imgur.com/a/h7LjQgp 141 / 452 = 0.3119
On the other hand when I calculate my stats + increases + trait procs + weapon enchant + Death buff + aura my Avg. Virulent plague hits would be ~ 60k , and my Virulent Errpution damage would be ~80k . So the VE doesn't get affected by the PvP nerf .

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Post Posted: 21-05-2020, 21:21:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Trello link : https://trello.com/c/N4ZdDjOx/822-death-knightunholy-virulent-erruption-missing-pvp-modifier
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Post Posted: 29-06-2020, 11:15:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Issue is now fixed and moved to Fixed Bugs.

Trello Card Link : https://trello.com/c/N4ZdDjOx/822-death-knightunholy-virulent-erruption-missing-pvp-modifier

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