Full gear upgrade o sapt dupa lansare

[Turbokill1337]

Cornele serios?? full gear vs restu care au 2-3 prideful, adica daca macar era cu plata mai intelegeam, da e gratis si nu inteleg ce-i cu graba asta, in fine, problema nr 2 e ca au aparut indivizi cu trinketu dat https://armory.freakz.ro/item/105472 [55% cooldown reduction la 4x upgrade] adica va dati si voi seama [puteti ignora ca da 16k agility aia nu e asa grav] ba frate o sa avem si noi pvp cat de cat balansat sa fie jucabil fara tampenii de genu? adica nu cerem 100% bug free server, cerem ce depinde de deciziile tale care nu necesita efort, in malevolent era dmg de cacao la multe clase si arenele fara dampening nici nu aveau sens, pe grievous au aparut meta-gemurile legendare retardate, dadea rogu 90k hits si acum trinketu asta cretin intrece orice masura si sa nu aud prostii de genu ca ma plang ca nam habar, joc pvp competitiv din lich king si stiu cum trebuie sa arate pvpu playable, multi din noi am jucat ATR unde a fost pvp de succes cu multi playeri de pe blizz etc etc, vrem si noi sa avem un pvp decent fara oneshotereala, nu speram sa fie perfect, ca e pve server pana la urma, da nici absurdul asta, eventual poate se fac turneuri mari pe bani/premii irl care vor atrage playeri de pe alte server/blizz si vom avea o comunitate de pvp mare cum a fost pe lich king.

@shockeru

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[Orga]

While i agree , its probably too late to revert or do anything about it since people already paid for full upgrades l0l

[Turbokill1337]

Orga wrote:

While i agree , its probably too late to revert or do anything about it since people already paid for full upgrades l0l

at least nerf these stupid trinkets so they aren't stronger than pvp trinkets

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[bossutai]

Trebuia sa mai dureze macar 2 saptamani pana la upgrade + ca inca nu se intelege un lucru clar: NU trebuie sa existe pve items in pvp! Daca erau bune de ceva le jucau si aia pe blizz ca doar nu suntem noi mai destepti ca milioane de playeri.

[Amnezx]

Sa se dea downscale la pve items la ~530

[rikymaru94]

bossutai wrote:

Trebuia sa mai dureze macar 2 saptamani pana la upgrade + ca inca nu se intelege un lucru clar: NU trebuie sa existe pve items in pvp! Daca erau bune de ceva le jucau si aia pe blizz ca doar nu suntem noi mai destepti ca milioane de playeri.

Nu prea'ti mai place acum cand iti iei one shot este ? pe cata nu mai erau disicutiile astea cand jucati toti cu http://www.wowhead.com/item=78473/kiril-fury-of-beasts http://www.wowhead.com/item=78002/bone-link-fetish Era echilibrat totul pe'atunci?
@ar fi un lucru daca ar scoate proc chance la trinketele pve in arena


""Îmi cunosc limitele. Dar pur ºi simplu le ignor."

[Amnezx]

@rahun, nu proc chance, dar trebuie downscale la ele. pe blizz era downscale la inceput la 520 si crestea pana la 540(atat, mai mult nu), aici e aiurea, mai ales ca`s trinkets alea cuj cooldown reduction si 20k strength/agyl

[bossutai]

rikymaru94 wrote:

bossutai wrote: Trebuia sa mai dureze macar 2 saptamani pana la upgrade + ca inca nu se intelege un lucru clar: NU trebuie sa existe pve items in pvp! Daca erau bune de ceva le jucau si aia pe blizz ca doar nu suntem noi mai destepti ca milioane de playeri. Nu prea'ti mai place acum cand iti iei one shot este ? pe cata nu mai erau disicutiile astea cand jucati toti cu http://www.wowhead.com/item=78473/kiril-fury-of-beasts http://www.wowhead.com/item=78002/bone-link-fetish Era echilibrat totul pe'atunci? @ar fi un lucru daca ar scoate proc chance la trinketele pve in arena

Kiril se compara cu trinket cu 54% cd reduce pe abilitati gen KS si agility de 3 ori si ceva cat alea pvp... Incerci degeaba...

[Fair]

ar fi o idee ca macar pe un patch/phase sa nu mori in 3-4 secunde, ca de cand joc aici, de pe 4.0.6, mereu au existat cateva clase care te lesinau in primul stun. La partea cu boost la iteme pve in PvP nici nu mai are rost comentariul, clar e o prostie. PvPe items nu ar trebui sa te ajute prea mult prin pvp, dar de la meta legendar o gramada au fost carati la propriu cu acel avantaj care ar trebui sa fie doar in PvE.

[rikymaru94]

doneaza si tu pve gear ca sa fii gladiator pe frixie


""Îmi cunosc limitele. Dar pur ºi simplu le ignor."

[Scott]

Din ce stiu trebuie sa se faca downscale la 540 ilvl pve items in sezonu 15, set bonusurile pve nu mergeau in arene, despre trinketele pve nu stiu prea multe...
Acum trebuie sa realizati ca cei care aleg sa foloseasca trinkete pve pierd in primul rand bonusul de 3% resil care inseamna defapt 15% dmg reduction si in al doilea rand pierd 6% dmg increase de la 2500 pvp power pierdut (12% daca aleg sa foloseasca 2 trinkete pve).

[Magicqtz]

Scott wrote:

Din ce stiu trebuie sa se faca downscale la 540 ilvl pve items in sezonu 15, set bonusurile pve nu mergeau in arene, despre trinketele pve nu stiu prea multe... Acum trebuie sa realizati ca cei care aleg sa foloseasca trinkete pve pierd in primul rand bonusul de 3% resil care inseamna defapt 15% dmg reduction si in al doilea rand pierd 6% dmg increase de la 2500 pvp power pierdut (12% daca aleg sa foloseasca 2 trinkete pve).

Abia a trecut la phase 3, multi nu trec de 530ilvl, think about it.

Propun set bonusuri pve sa nu mearga in arene + downscale 510-520.

[Turbokill1337]

http://imgur.com/PL5ePrm no comment

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[Magicqtz]

Turbokill1337 wrote:

http://imgur.com/PL5ePrm no comment

Pfff )
Sa am unul pe elem acum, cred ca dau aproape 200k pe un lava la gear ala cu toate procurile

[mental^depress]

Interesting how many of you are trying to express their ''so intelligent'' opinion about the PvE downscale, but no one, NO ONE didn't even thought that is so easy to lose 5 minutes of your life to find some easy informations. I guess it's better to lose those 5 minutes on sites like Facebook, Instagram, etc like the ordinary low IQ people. Your brain needs to work, not to check ''pictures of girls'' or posting trash stuffs on those sites 24/7. You know, if one of you accesses them, the other one should do the same, that's why more than half of the society are at the same level, because they are copying one from each other when it comes to habits, some of you are still living 2.500.500 years ago, in the stone age. Leaving the drama away, we have the following things:

Grievous Season:

PvE gear gets downscaled to 496 + 1 ilvl per week up to 512 max and PvP gear is 522.


What do we know about the downscale system regarding PvE trinkets in PvP?:

- proc rate is reduced
- recovery rate is reduced
- proc stat amount is also reduced


// Example:

Evil Eye of Galakras Heroic Warforged CDR: 46.75% - PvE // 14039 Strength
Evil Eye of Galakras Heroic Warforged CDR: 24% - PvP // 7314 Strength
Thok's Tail Tip Heroic Warforged: 8.36% - PvE // 14039 Strength
Thok's Tail Tip Heroic Warforged: 4% - PvP // 7314 Strength

Info: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1378704-How-do-5-4-PVE-trinkets-get-downscaled-in-PVP

PvE trinkets had their procs halved in PvP. Means they are not only weaker regarding ilvl, they also have a weaker proc.


Mid of 5.2 - discussions with the DEVS:

Player: Currently the 5.2 ladders are being plagued with PvE trinkets that have really nice procs. Are the ilvl caps going to assist with any future cases of strong PvE items and trinket procs? If not what have you got planned to avoid PvE items being BiS for PvP?

Dev: We think “plague” is too strong a word here. Our goal is not to prohibit all PvE gear in PvP, or we would do just that. We like that either gear type can be used to get a leg up in the other format. What we don’t want is for players who are in full Conquest gear to feel like they need to go pursue a PvE item in order to be competitive. We have made some changes to trinkets already and we will modify others if we feel it’s necessary. Our tactic overall is to have PvE trinkets with the potential for PvP burst (such as those with a large primary stat proc) to proc more frequently but for smaller amounts against players.

^ ''What we don't want is for players who are in full Conquest gear to feel like they need to go pursue a PvE item in order to be competitive.'' ( Funny, on Freakz, each ''PvE'' person ( especially from Horde ) with at least 1 PvE trinket is competitive, just look at the solo Queue ladder, check the top 30 players, carefully. )

Info: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/9427062/


So, in the end, my finally suggestion; Shocker, if you don't want to grow the PvE downscale level each week, then, set it to a fixed number, let's say, 512 for now. After 1 month and a half, set it to 522 and leave it like that until the end of MoP here. How will the downscale work? We will cut the proc chances, gains, increases to HALF of their Heroic Warforged version value ( On retail, the downscale wasn't exactly halved, on some it was 51%, on some 49%, etc, it doesn't matter, it's a non-noticeable difference ). So, even if your trinket is LFR version or normal version, in PvP ( Battlegrounds, Arenas or PvP zones like Tol'Barad, etc. ) its stats / gains / proc chance / auras, etc. will be cut down to half of its Heroic Warforged value.