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Post Posted: 15-05-2015, 17:08:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

You're missing the point. We notice an unusual damage increase when there's spell power / intellect gear equipped, and it's in no way related to Stance of the Wise Serpent.
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Post Posted: 15-05-2015, 17:49:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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ok... then how can we calculate the main hand min/max dps? cuz i still don't get it... give a a right formula or an easyer one... because if it's not what dreadbalde posted we are in deep s..t!

imagine that you have a weapon with one tipe of dmg... u don't have min or max dmg.. u have a constant value... how can you find the dps of it? or mby it's not a legit question?

Or, for example

If u have a weapon with 500 - 1000 dmg and a 2.20 speed you got 340.9 dps as the formula says
then take the formula : MainHand min/ max dps = mainhand dmg / 2 / speed and u got something like this:
for min: 500/2 /2,20=113.6
for max: 1000/2 /2,20= 227.2
combining this u get the overall dps that is 340.87

So mby it's actualy posible to calculate min/max dps like that... I DON'T KNOW THAT YET

And about the spellpower increase: i runed tests with no spellpower /healer stance or dps stance/ agi,str,sp weapon... the results ar the same... to much dmg

AND one more thing. In my spell tooltipe i can find that my SCK hit for 3.8k to 4.5k dmg per target.... i'm guesing that it's the corect value that my spell got to have... but i hit for double the amount.

It's that posible that formula in the tooltipe it's different then the formula used in the spell script?




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Post Posted: 15-05-2015, 19:55:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

So ok... after shokeru told me that the formu is actualy quite corecte i start looking in other places... dreadblade was right in the begining.

After several #@!ing hours of testing i got this: keep in mind that i have a weapon with no stats... the only difference betwen the pics are the backs... one is with intelect and one is with agility

intelect back :
agility back:

Look at the stats aswell... with more ap i have less dps




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Post Posted: 13-06-2015, 02:35:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Dreadblade wrote:
I have found the formula for min/max weapon DPS:

(MinWeaponDmg / 2) / WeaponSpeed
(MaxWeaponDmg / 2) / WeaponSpeed

Also you need to calculate using values from your Character Sheet (for weapon damage), not the values displayed on the item.

Source: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/9972877812#8
http://www.wowwiki.com/Damage_per_second


Ala care a postat mizeria aia pe battle.net e pur si simplu retardat. Oare o fi auzit in anii aia de viata de media aritmetica ??

Min Weapon dps: min_wp_dmg(weapon status) / wp_spd
Max Weapon dps: max_wp_dmg(weapon status) / wp_spd; wp=weapon, spd=speed.

Acum sa o luam logic...daca ai o arma cu 3000 damage care arunca un hit odata la 3 secunde, inseamna ca va avea 1000 dps, nu ?
Daca ar avea un range de damage 3000 - 6000 cu speed de 3 secunde, ar insemna ca dps-ul este intre 1000 si 2000, media aritmetica fiind de 1500. Asta inseamna average, media aritmetica.

Ok formulele(click pe links...arhiva web):
Spinning Crane Kick: https://web.archive.org/web/20130812085656/http://www.wowhead.com/spell=101546#comments
Rushing Jade Wind: https://web.archive.org/web/20131106132620/http://www.wowhead.com/spell=116847/rushing-jade-wind

Nu stau eu sa calculez pentru ca nu am nici timp si nici motiv. Monk-ul este o clasa noua cu formule mai "ciudate" si necesita destul timp de gandire si de testat si destule cautari pe internet.

De asemenea tin sa va atrag atentia ca mana regen-ul ala este incredibil de mare. Formula pt el este: Combat Regen = Total Mana *0.02 +(1.1287*SPI*Meditation%). Asta din ce am vazut in poza celui de mai sus, si ma indoiesc ca are peste 8k spirit fara iteme pe el, ca sa ajunga la regenul ala.


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Post Posted: 13-06-2015, 15:11:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am testat azi cu spec de Windwalker pe un dumy PVE
Cu gearul meu cu agility de dps (pe care am ~0 spell power) , dupa 100 de normal hits cu rushing jade wind valoare medie a fost de ~ 7050

Pe urma am schimbat armele cu agility cu stafu cu spellpower si astfel aveam un pic mai mult de 5k spell power dar attack power mai mic desigur.
Dar in conditiile astea dupa 100 de normal hits cu rushing jade wind, valoarea medie a fost de ~9300
Concluzia e ca rushing jade wind beneficiaza de spell power - e ff clar.
Trebuie fix neaparat .



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Post Posted: 13-06-2015, 19:24:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

raven3 wrote:
Am testat azi cu spec de Windwalker pe un dumy PVE
Cu gearul meu cu agility de dps (pe care am ~0 spell power) , dupa 100 de normal hits cu rushing jade wind valoare medie a fost de ~ 7050

Pe urma am schimbat armele cu agility cu stafu cu spellpower si astfel aveam un pic mai mult de 5k spell power dar attack power mai mic desigur.
Dar in conditiile astea dupa 100 de normal hits cu rushing jade wind, valoarea medie a fost de ~9300
Concluzia e ca rushing jade wind beneficiaza de spell power - e ff clar.
Trebuie fix neaparat .


uitativa la toate posturile si topicurile... nu sp e problema... mai degraba intelect... cu procuri de sp nu isi ia increase RJW sau SCK




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Post Posted: 16-06-2015, 00:44:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Base formula is correct. Issue was indeed intellect as tovry explained here https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Monk-All-Specs-Intelect-Dmg-t364122.html
This was affecting many monk spells, not just RJD / SCK

In case you still find some spells that get increased incorrectly by intellect, repost, I think I covered all the spells


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