[Multiple] Haste % calculation

[Whyplashh]

Bug description: At the moment the haste breakpoints are broken ( you can achieve the number of ticks from a haste breakpoint with less haste points ). For exemple as warlock,using Agony I get the same number of ticks at 9778 haste (haste breakpoint) as at 9021 haste - witch is 757 less haste), and with the proc from metagem TW, at 10701 +5%raid haste I should have 21 ticks of Agony and the same thing happens at 9778 (almost 1k less haste points). For all the testing I had the 5% haste aura. You can compare the results from my test with the ones from the 5.4 haste breakpoint table I will post.
I think that this is a GENERAL BUG, that concern all the classes, so if other players would be so kind to check this on their class, that would be nice. Just look in the table see the haste breakpoint and lower ure haste 500 600 points to see if the number of ticks stay the same.

Proof:

5.4 HASTE BREAKPOINT TABLE : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-aEX1JvdwjKJJmh0o0lWwvY5Sozvns2U77bfbFUtdDg/edit#gid=12
- it has the hastebreakpoints for Affliction WARLOCK / Destro WARLOCK / Demonology WARLOCK / MAGE / Balance DRUID / Mistweaver MONK / PALADIN / Shadow PRIEST / FlameShock - SHAMAN


Test at 9021 haste for 9778 hastebreakpoint :







Test at 9778 for 10701 hastebreakpoint :

[Daeron]

Great bug report! GJ

[Seyrox]

Its not haste breakpoints its % that is bugged, for ex:(not actually true) 300 haste should give you 1% but on freakz its gives you 1.5%. Its on all classes not only on classes that have breakpoints.



Demonolgy Warlock Guide 5.4.8

[katy_naritza]

This was posted and fixed some time ago here (before ToT release) and they were fixed( I tested and they were workin properly). I'm gonna retest it and come back with an answer@shadow priest.
It seems like the threshold is somewhere between ~993(highest value I managed to obtain through gear combination without altering tick number) and ~1006 haste(lowest value of haste removed to lose one tick). Test was done for Vampiric Touch. The breakpoint for 7th tick is 10124 haste. The one that says "hit training dummy" is the mastery proc, ignore it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OwnoSkm3VY4:

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Fixed!

[Lorne]

The bug is here that +5% spellphaste scales multiplicatively instead of additively.

[Seyrox]

Something like that, test it without 5% aura



Demonolgy Warlock Guide 5.4.8

[Whyplashh]

As Warlock with Agony from 8845 haste raiting (without raid buff / TW /BL ) I should have 15 ticks :

Same happens at 8300 haste raiting :

And at 8100 haste raiting :


So the bug is not from +5% spell haste aura.

[Seyrox]

The bug is that haste rating gives more % than it should supposed to be



Demonolgy Warlock Guide 5.4.8

[Whyplashh]

So did some more testing, yes there is a problem how haste points are converted to % haste.
It works like this if you put only 1 item on you, the haste points are transformed as they should be in % haste, going after the formula 425 haste = 1%.
When you start to put the 2nd item the difference between the % haste from the haste points and the one shown on the character info starts to apear. So at 2 itemes u have 0.01 , 3 itemes 0.04, going to full gear at 2% depending on ure total haste.
So the problem is how the haste is calculated when you have all ure itemes on you with reforge, haste bonus and gems. I also attached a video from blizz, where at 3:55 he shows his haste and you can see that the % haste is the same (there is no difference)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=f7EOzP-a3fQ&t=3:










@Shocker @Rageless

[Nemoboyz]

1% haste at 90 = 425.19
so for 20% is 8503.18

[Magnus06]

415 haste gives my lock 0.98 spell haste. So at somepoint it goes WTF because with 6791 i have 17.21% SH instead of 15,98%. Same shit with my pal at 11k8 haste (still with spall haste, btw the SoI adds 13% SH instead of 10% from the tooltip).

The haste from ratings is fine because if you read the tooltip, it says so but the "global" % starts to snowball from ~5% haste.

edit 2 : MY WTF GUESS is that the goblin 1% haste bonus is applied to EVERY classes but i'm bad at maths so if someone has brain to check, be my guest.

[Whyplashh]

Haste stacks in a multiplicative manner. This means that it is beneficial to stack multiple haste effects. Haste rating stacks additively with itself (two sources of 100 haste rating give a total of 200 haste rating when stacked) and is then converted into a percentage (see table below) that stacks in a multiplicative manner with other sources of haste. @ Wowpedia

The red part seems to be the problem, also renamed the topic to represent better the problem in hand.

[Scott]

Oh look it seems even warriors can benefit from this bug:


1953 rating -> 0.10% bonus

7224 rating -> 3% bonus
Take your time confirming and fixing this, its not even a huge bug that affects all classes.

[Dreadblade]

Can someone explain this to me?



https://youtube.com/watch?v=bCKn_T3rrCc:

@5:04, set the video speed to 0.25 to see it.

And it appears to be pretty much the same on Freakz

[Whyplashh]

Explain what exactly Dreadblade? the photo? I am on ts if you want to talk.
P.S. It means that DK are not affected by this bug.