Operation: Save Elemental Shaman

[Roshkatul]

soulkreep wrote:

Nu e chiar surprinzatoare faza cu Lava burst pt ca lava burst are base coefficient mai mic decat lightning bolt. Alte clase castiga mult mai mult fiind in raid pt ca tu deja ai deja bufu de 10% spell power // 5% crit // 5% haste cand dai p dummy

Si enha are buff de 5% attack speed, agility si attack power, dar totusi da mai bine..


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[Chupacabras]

La mine e chiar mai trist ca am setu donat de elem...de cand au bagat 4.3.4, 405 ilvl si cu lb nu dau decat 46 k crit pe dummy. plus ca nu scot dps asa mare nici pe dummy...vreo 35 k cam asa

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2748/e12a.jpg

[Zohlomg]

15 damage de Chain Lightning, 1 singur cast.

//oh wait ca am legendara. Stai sa testez si fara.

Posturi unite automat, 04-11-2013, 20:16:03

FL 10n - 40k DPS.

Lightning max - 54k
Lava burst max - 64k
Fulmination max - 90k

Where are the *** bugssssss.

[soulkreep]

Fara legendara nu vezi mai mult de 10 p un cast .

Resto shaman PVE

[b0gd4n90]

Zohlomg wrote:

Where are the *** bugssssss.

here:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JLzZUk3H4cU:



Cu toate heroicele tale te apropii de dmg ul astuia in full pvp cata? .... sau mergi pe " AnoTher server " si vezi acolo dmg elemental.....sper sa nu iau warn pt jocurile de cuvinte

http://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&cn=Szublime

[Zohlomg]

90k Lava burst si 100k Fulmination? Hai sa vedem.

`cu toate heroicele tale`. Te-ai mira, dar SP-ul e foarte asemanator.

[b0gd4n90]

As fi uimit daca te-ai apropia macar. La 11k Sp cat are ala mai mult de 75-80 laca burst nu ai cum sa ajungi ...bineinteles cu trinket si volcanic ca ala.

http://armory.freakz.ro/character-sheet.xml?r=Genesis&cn=Szublime

[Zohlomg]

Haha, 11k? Daca vrei sa stii, cand casteaza Lava Burst are 18k SP.

Incepem: Data from video

Base SP: 10000 (se vede ca are 11k cu totemul de 10%)
Flask de Intelect 300 si Well Fed 90 + 400 SP ( 10400 SP )
Trinket de 1452 si Trinket de 2419 + 3871 ( 14271 SP )
Lightweave de 500 si Power Torrent de 500 +1000 ( 15271 SP )
Volcanic Potion de 1200 +1200 ( 16471 SP )
Totem of Wrath ( +10% ) ( 18118 SP )

Ok, deci facem calculele cu 18118 SP.

Lava burst coefficient: 0.988 * 18118 = 17900
Concussion: 17900 * 1.06 = 18974
Call of Flame: 18974 * 1.1 = 20871
Elemental Focus: 20871 * 1.1 = 22958
Flametongue Weapon: 22958 * 1.07 = 24565
Glyph of Lava Burst: 24565 * 1.1 = 27021
Elemental Mastery = 27021 * 1.15 = 31074
Unleash Flame = 31074 * 1.3 = 40397

Lava Burst crit = 40397 * 2.24 = 90489
El in video a dat: 91989.

Marja de eroare de 2%, care nu conteaza, cine stie de unde apare, din aproximari la calcule, etc.

Hai sa vad cat dau eu cu 18k SP acum.

18135 SP: 87700
Fata de calculele mele, lipseste 3%
Fata de video, 4.8%.

[Zohlomg]

Roshkatul wrote:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mPO3pDYjZ04: Dupa gear este full cata, la :40 102k lava burst (unleash elements), 114k fulmination.. (cel mai probabil au fost ambele pe 0 resil) Procuri: enchant tailoring intellect, volcanic potion, raciala orc, elemental mastery, trinket cata PvP, clearcasting.

Nu mai fac calcule pe alt video, ajunge calculul pe video ala ca se vede totul clar.

[Roshkatul]

O parte din DPS se pierde si datorita clearcastingului. Daca ai un stack de clearcasting si dai crit, nu te aduce la 2 stackuri, ramane la 1 stack.

Se poate pierde in jur de 500-1k dps overall banuiesc.


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[Zohlomg]

Nvm, sunt idiot si obosit dupa atatea ore.

COEFICIENTI PENTRU SPELLS DATE FARA UNLEASH FLAME, DATE DOAR CU CE-AM LISTAT MAI JOS

Normal hit test: SP * 1.715
Crit test: SP * 3.8416

(DAR ASIGURATI-VA CA AVETI CONCUSSION / CALL OF FLAME / GLYPH OF LAVA BURST / CLEARCASTING / ELEMENTAL MASTERY ACTIVE)

O sa accept plangeri de damage etc DOAR CU PRINTURI in care se vede ca aveti toate astea (evident, nu tre sa-mi aratati ca aveti glyph si talente in acelasi timp, dar sa se vada procs/sp)
Daca vreti sa testati solo, aveti mai sus cum se calculeaza pe rand.

Concluzia mea din toate astea? Lava Burst merge bine, Unleash Flame nu da increase cum trebuie la Lava Burst, spell pe care eu oricum nu-l foloseam in PvE


Later Edit pt Fulmination: Acelasi SP ca tipul din video, Elemental Mastery si Elemental Focus: 105K Fulmination. Merge bine.

Later Edit iar pentru Fulmination: Merge PERFECT

[UnbannmeplsxD]

The fact is where talking about ele shamans, and seriously the ele shaman DMG is *** up =) ( Freakz)

Hi my name is Odysei from the Guild Speedkill, im playing now ele shaman for about 3 Years

Character:

Orc Elemental shaman 400 Full pve
My Self Buffs at the DPS Test: http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=30k7klz&&s=5#.UngeEflLMbg ( Stats with totems,Flask and buff food)

Highest Burst: http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2nvdwtj&&s=5#.Ungeb_lLMbg
The end: http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=nd0e9t&&s=5#.Unge7vlLMbg

Simulationcraft Results ( Patch 4,3,0)
http://simulationcraft.org/430/Raid_T13H.html#Shaman_Elemental_T13H

Do you see the difference?

Lighningbolt without any proccs: 14k Non critical, 27-29k critical ( isn´t that high but ok)
Lavaburst : without unleashed elements 41k, and with unleashed elements 51k ( i think thats okey)
Fullmination :31k non crit , 117k ( volcanic, tailoring procc, power torrent and elemental mastery )

Fullmination and Lavaburst are working very well, and there comes the but

BUT Lighning bolt is still low

[Zohlomg]

With bugged Unleash Flame:

No idea how much SP I had, around 17-18k.

+ I got on MSBT: 175384 (4 Crits) (Lava Burst)

[Erudax]

Daca ai avut legendara, e posibil sa fi dat 4 crits (ai avut noroc):
Lava Burst initial + Tarecgosa + Mastery + Tarecgosa.
Nu sunt sigur ca poate replica si Mastery-ul.

[Sharkyman]

Erudax wrote:

Nu sunt sigur ca poate replica si Mastery-ul.

merge 100%