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Post Posted: 23-11-2018, 00:32:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=56377 (wowhead link)

Bug description: 2nd target supposed to get 80% dmg of 1st target but it works completely random , some times when ice lance crit (not FOF) , it dosnt count for 2nd target , some times 2nd target get more dmg of 1st target even and some times it working well.

Proof: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_Kxx7NPDsM4:




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Post Posted: 23-11-2018, 03:36:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

This was posted in the wrong forum sub section, I went ahead and moved it for you.

I'm unsure how quickly they will go ahead and get to you with this bug but i've made a note to come back to this in a few days if it stays unanswered

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Post Posted: 23-11-2018, 14:16:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Playing around with it right now, on the PTR.

I started testing without an artifact weapon equipped, which showed, roughly speaking, the correct numbers.
The numbers I got were always 5% too high, which made me think the Splitting Ice damage increase is applied to the extra Ice Lance from the talent, after taking the damage value of the main Ice Lance that`s already affected by the talent.


After testing it without an artifact, I (obviously) tested it with an artifact weapon equipped as well, in which case the damage numbers did get a bit weird. Most of the time they were WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYS away from where they should be.


Looking into the math myself right now. Hope I can figure that out at least. -
I'll come back to this post when I find something.

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Post Posted: 23-11-2018, 19:15:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hello, i tried to test it and i notice these things:

1) When your two ice lances deal a non-crit damage(when the second ice lance deal less damage than first one), the second one isn't doesn't deal 80% of damage. It doesn't deal right damage even calculating 5% of Splitting Ice bonus before/after remove 20%. It's less than it should(7-9k less). Same with two crit ice lance.

2) Apart Splitting Ice, ice lance deal instable damage even without that talent. If you try to use it without external proc(Legendary, trinkets etc..) it won't deal damage description say(obviously non-crit damage). All other spells work in that way(for example: frostbolt deal same damage its description say(Dummies armor count only for physical damages).

3) Sometimes second ice lance deal more damages than first one(as Firespell already said) and it seem to be even more than 5% of splitting ice.

I've to say that i'm not a retail player but just trying to help using logic about how spell should work. Hoping it will help you.



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Post Posted: 24-11-2018, 11:35:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

No gear no Splitting Ice: https://i.imgur.com/pu30W05.jpg

No gear, Splitting Ice, one dummy: https://i.imgur.com/U8xknhE.jpg

No gear, Splitting Ice, two dummies: https://i.imgur.com/ELh15wJ.jpg

Just artifact weapon, Splitting Ice, two dummies: https://i.imgur.com/v1Whtbm.jpg

Full Gear, Splitting Ice, two dummies: https://i.imgur.com/gjSh67b.jpg

Full Gear, Splitting Ice, two dummies, with fingers of frost procs: https://imgur.com/a/BaZUQ9M

I didn't use Incanter's Flow or the legendary bracers.

As you can see, the damage fluctuates a lot on Main Ice lance and thus it fluctuates a lot on the Splitted Ice Lance as well. There was a bug report regarding this a while back and Quicksand checked on retail and said that's how it's intended: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/REJECTED-Mage-Frost-Ice-lance-small-fluctuations-in-damage-t518141.html

Because of this fluctuation, the Splitted Ice lance sometimes does more than 80% of the damage of the main Ice Lance, sometimes it does less.

The 5% damage increase from Splitting Ice seems to be roughly working.

I couldn't find any hard evidence regarding how the Splitted Ice Lance should behave in relation to the Main Ice Lance, but I don't think that if the Main Lance crits so should the Splitted one.





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Post Posted: 24-11-2018, 12:07:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hey lemon
You dont need any evidence for it . spilitted one supposed to do 0.8 of main ice lance dmg ,(crit or non-crit), dosnt matter how much dmg mian il dose.



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Post Posted: 24-11-2018, 13:25:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Rejected.

The damage might not seem correct, but it averages out to be the correct amount. There's no DPS increase nor loss for mages, so there'd be literally no value in doing anything with it.

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