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Paladinului i-au fost aduse atat imbunatatiri cat si cateva dezavantaje pe Cataclysm. Acum ramai mai repede fara mana dar esti cel care sustine raidul prin cele mai puternice single-target heals , mai nou si AoE heals. Acest guide este despre Holy Paladin PVE, patch 4.0.6 .









Ca si pe WotLK, cel mai important stat al nostru este Intellect-ul

Deci avem asa :

INTELLECT > SPIRIT = HASTE > SPELLCRIT > MASTERY

De ce SPIRIT = HASTE? Pentru ca atunci cand o sa ajungeti end geared, Haste o sa devina o necesitate.

Spellpower se gaseste acum doar pe arma.

Cu 5% Plate Spec, 5% Kings, si 10% Spellpower buff, 100 Int vom avea :

Code:
1653.75 Maximum Mana.
121.275 Spell Power.
~0.17% Spell Crit.
~8.27 Mp5 din Replenishment.
~8.27 Mp5 din Divine Plea.













Cel mai bun spec pe 4.0.6 este : 32/5/4

Link in-game :
Code:
/run t,p,a={1,22,33,43,52,81,92,102,112,121,133,141,153,161,172,183,201,2,13,32,3,23,31,}SetPreviewPrimaryTalentTree(t[1],GetActiveTalentGroup())for i=1,#t do a=t[i]if a<9 then p=a else AddPreviewTalentPoints(p,floor(a/10),a%10)end end


Enlightened Judgments - Mai mult hit, mai mult heal primit din judgement care se transfera la beacon.
Eternal Glory - Iti ofera sanse mai mare ca Word of Glory sa nu consume Holy power.
Blessed Life - Genereaza Holy Power cand primesti direct damage
Last Word - Crit mai mare cu Word of Glory pe cei sub 35% hp.
Improved Judgment - Range mai mare pentru Judgement
Pursuit of Justice - Movement speed mai mare si sanse sa genereze Holy power cand aveti stun / fear / immobilize.

Eu va sfatuiesc sa copiati specul folosit de mine.









Single Target Heals:

1. Holy Light (wowhead link) - Consum de mana foarte mic, slow casting heal moderat. Folosit ca filler.
2. Flash of Light (wowhead link) - Consum de mana mare, fast casting, heal mare. Folosit cand se primeste damage mare si rapid, sau cand vrei sa dai heal rapid cuiva.
3. Divine Light (wowhead link) - Consum de mana mare, slow casting, heal foarte mare. Folosit cand se primeste damage foarte mare.
4. Word of Glory (wowhead link) - Consuma Holy Power, instant casting, heal moderat.


Area of Effect (AOE) / Multi Target Heals:

1. Holy Radiance (wowhead link) - Este principalul heal AOE
2. Light of Dawn (wowhead link) - Cel mai bine este folosit in 25man cu 3 Holy Power
3. Guardian of Ancient Kings (wowhead link) - AOE part : Ancient Healer (wowhead link)


Holy Power Heals:

1. Light of Dawn (wowhead link) - Aoe heal
2. Word of Glory (wowhead link) - Single Target

Singurele spells care genereaza mereu Holy power sunt Holy Shock si Crusader Strike. Celelalte genereaza Holy Power numai cu acest talent : Tower of Radiance (wowhead link)









Avem niste spelluri foarte utile, dar cu un cooldown mai mare :

1. Avenging Wrath (wowhead link) = 20% mai mult heal. Lasts 20 sec . 3 min cd
2. Divine Favor (wowhead link) = 20% mai mult haste si crit. Lasts 20 sec, sau 30 sec cu glyph. 3 min cd
3. Aura Mastery (wowhead link) = Creste efectul aurei active paladinului cu 100% timp de 6 secunde. 2 min cd
4. Lay on Hands (wowhead link) = imbauberomgheal , da cred ca stiti cu totii ce face. Da cam 180k heal. 10 min cd. Provoaca Forbearance (wowhead link) pe cel afectat.
5. Guardian of Ancient Kings (wowhead link) = Ei bine aici este ceva foarte interesant. Summoneaza un pet incontrolabil care casteaza aceleasi single target spells ca si paladinul ( Flash of light, Holy light, Divine light, Word of Glory, Holy Shock, Lay on Hands). Acest ingeras este invulnerabil si dureaza 30 sec sau pana au fost castate 5 healuri valide.
6. Divine Plea (wowhead link) = Principalul spell care ne reface mana.









Best in Slot




I. BEST IN SLOT, 4.0.6 GEAR, SPIRIT+HASTE, CU 4 PIESE TIER 11

II. BEST IN SLOT, 4.0.6 GEAR, HASTE > SPIRIT, FARA SET BONUS.


Starting Gear




I. STARTING GEAR, 4.0.6 PATCH, SPIRIT > HASTE, HORDE SIDE








Glyphs:






1. Prime glyphs : [Glyph of Divine Favor], [Glyph of Seal of Insight], [Glyph of Holy Shock]

2. Major glyphs : [Glyph of Beacon of Light], [Glyph of Light of Dawn] sau [Glyph of Divinity], [Glyph of Divine Plea].

3. Minor glyphs : Insight, Blessing of Might, Blessing of Kings.


Enchants:






Back [Enchant Cloak - Greater Intellect] / [Enchant Cloak - Intellect]
Chest [Enchant Chest - Peerless Stats] / [Enchant Chest - Mighty Stats]
Feet [Enchant Boots - Haste] / [Enchant Boots - Lavawalker]
Hands [Enchant Gloves - Haste] / [Enchant Gloves - Greater Mastery]
Shield [Enchant Off-Hand - Superior Intellect]
Wrist [Enchant Bracer - Mighty Intellect] / [Enchant Bracer - Greater Speed]
Head [Arcanum of Hyjal] / [Arcanum of Vicious Intellect]
Shoulder [Greater Inscription of Charged Lodestone] / [Greater Inscription of Vicious Intellect]
Legs [Powerful Ghostly Spellthread] / [Powerful Enchanted Spellthread]

[Enchant Weapon - Heartsong] 20s ICD, 25% proc chance
[Enchant Weapon - Power Torrent] 45s ICD, 30-35% proc chance



Gems:






Meta:
[Ember Shadowspirit Diamond]

Red:
[Brilliant Inferno Ruby]

Blue:
[Purified Demonseye]

Yellow:
[Reckless Ember Topaz]

Food:













Potions, Flasks & Elixirs:






Flasks:

[Flask of the Draconic Mind]
[Flask of Flowing Water]

Potions:

[Volcanic Potion]
[Potion of Concentration]
[Mythical Mana Potion]

Elixirs:

[Elixir of Mighty Speed] - Battle Elixir
[Ghost Elixir] - Battle Elixir
[Scroll of Intellect IX] - Battle Elixir
[Prismatic Elixir] - Guardian Elixir

Astea le-am considerat utile.










Leatherworking - Draconic Embossment - Intellect
Net Gain: +130 Int, -1 Wrist Enchant

Jewelcrafting - Brilliant Chimera's Eye x3
Net Gain: +81 Int cu gemurile actuale

Alchemy - Mixology
Net Gain: +80 Int

Blacksmithing - Socket Gloves/Bracers
Net Gain: +80 Int cu gemurile actuale

Enchanting - Enchant Ring - Intellect
Net Gain: +80 Int

Inscription - Felfire Inscription
Net Gain: +80 Int

Engineering - Synapse Springs
Net Gain: +480 Int for 12s / min

Tailoring - Lightweave Embroidery
Net Gain: +580 Int for 15s, -50 Int Enchant

Herbalism - Lifeblood
Net Gain: +480 Haste for 20s / 2min

Skinning - Master of Anatomy
Net Gain: +80 Crit

Recomand : Jewelcrafting + Tailoring, sau Tailoring + Engineering.









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Power Bars
Power Auras

Din cele pe care le-am mentionat mai sus + cele din print, va recomand Good News Everyone, Cooldowns, Snowfall Key Press, Move Anything, Target Health Percent.









1. Mouseover Macro

Code:
#showtooltip Spell Name
 /cast [@mouseover, help] [help] [@targettarget, help] [@player] Spell Name


2. Focus Macro

Code:
#showtooltip Spell Name
 /focus [@focus,nohelp] [@focus,dead]
 /cast [@focus,help] [help] [@targettarget,help] [@player] Spell Name


3. Rebuke pe focus target

Code:
#Showtooltip Rebuke
/stopcasting
/stopattack
/cast [@focus] Rebuke
/y AM DAT INTRERUPT


4. Burst macro

Code:
#showtooltip Divine Favor
/cast Divine Favor
/cast Guardian of Ancient Kings
/cast Avenging Wrath
/use ItemName


5. Hand of Salvation cu announce

Code:
#showtooltip Hand of Salvation
/run SendChatMessage("Casting Hand of Salvation on "..UnitName("target").." ("..UnitLevel("target")..")!","RAID",nil,nil)
/cast Hand of Salvation


Puteti inlocui "Casting Hand of Salvation on " cu orice mesaj care sa il scrie, si "RAID" cu "orice alt canal"

6. Hand of Sacrifice cu announce

Code:
#showtooltip Hand of Sacrifice
/run SendChatMessage("Casting Hand of Sacrifice on "..UnitName("target").." ("..UnitLevel("target")..")!","RAID",nil,nil)
/cast Hand of Sacrifice


7. Funny Redemption announce

Code:
#showtooltip Redemption
/cast Redemption
/s Dau ress pe JuanCarlosFranciscoManuelCasanova
a.k.a {star}%t Panseluta{star}


8. Divine Shield folosit ca second trinket pvp

Code:
#showtooltip Divine Shield
/cast Divine Shield
/cancelaura Divine Shield







Single Target






Multi Target / AOE







Tactica mea personala:

O sa fac in doua variante. Una pentru dungeons si alta pentru raids ( 25man )


I. Dungeons

Din propria mea experienta va voi spune ca un tank inapt care sta "lemn" si care se bazeaza numai pe healer incasand toate hiturile de la trash / bosi este ...doar praf. Adica daca moare, nu va simtiti vinovati, (Cel putin eu nu ma simt).

In primul rand trebuie sa stiti aceste lucruri :

1. Spamand orice spell, exceptand WoG / LoD / Holy Light / Holy Shock o sa ramaneti fara mana. De ce ? Pentru ca paladinul a fost nerfuit in asa fel incat sa nu mai faca ca pe WotLK. Deci, trebuie sa fiti foarte atenti la mana voastra. Foarte :< .

2. Dand heal numai cu Holy Light riscati sa va moara tankul / grupul. De preferat ar fii sa folositi Holy Light ca filler (adica de umplutura), Holy Shock la cooldown.

3. Incercati sa folositi mereu Word of Glory cu 3x Holy Power, folosind specul meu (vezi mai sus) . Light of Dawn este aproape inutil in 5man.

4. Profitati mereu de Infusion of Light (wowhead link), cand targetul are HP mai mult, dati un holy light, daca are HP mai putin dati un divine light.

5. Judgement la Cooldown. Iar daca encounterul va permite, incercati sa stati in melee range-ul celui pe care ati dat judgement. Asta pentru ca melee attacks va reface mana.

6. NU folositi Crusader Strike decat daca este neaparata nevoie de Holy Power. Consuma 10% base mana, adica undeva pe la 2-3k daca nu ma insel.

7. Pentru proc la increased healing buff, power torrent, etc dati Holy Radiance (wowhead link) . Eu de cand am facut 358 ilevel il dau de cate ori este nevoie, chiar si la cooldown. Asa ca daca stiti ca va permiteti nu ezitati sa il folositi.

8. La low HP, heal cu Flash of light nu cu Divine Light

9. Folostiti de cate ori este nevoie Divine Protection, Aura mastery (in dungeons de preferat , of Resistance), Stun.

Si acum rotatia: Beacon > Judgement > HolyShock > Holy Light ( x cat e nevoie) > Flash/ Holyshock pentru WoG > WoG (x3 HP) > WoG (daca nu se consuma HP) > Flash of light ( Low HP to full hp) > HolyShock (proc) > Divine Light > Judgement CD > Holy Shock > si tot asa.

Daca v-ati facut o idee, ramane sa introduceti unde este nevoie Holy Radiance, Divine Favour, Guardian of AK, Avenging Wrath.


II. Raid 25 man :

Din cauza ca o sa fiti uber buffed, va puteti permite sa mai renuntati la teama asa de out of mana, si sa dati si niste AOE heal in plus. (Asta daca nu sunteti pusi strict pe tank)

Neaparat, folositi la CD : Holy Radiance, Holy Shock, Judgement, Divine Favour, Avenging Wrath, Divine Protection, GotAK.

Rotatia in raids e in functie de boss, asa ca o sa iau ca exemplu Halfus Wyrmbreaker :

Beacon > Judgement > HolyShock > Flash > Holy Light (ca filler) > WoG / LoD > Divine Light la proc .

Restul am spus ca se dau la cooldown, deci nu are rost sa le introduc.



Sper sa va ajute in tainele paladinului holy.

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Done -

Cand ma scol o sa mai pun niste poze si BiS , sau macar itemele care o sa le avem noi pe server.

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@ fara comentarii stupide gen " Retry take's no skill" , nu faci si unul retri ? daca ai chef, timp si cel mai inportant, CHEF.
Tu ai acces la date base, deci cam stii care-s BiS. Stats and all those... Asa ca te rog, daca vrei, si inc-o data, daca ai chef, sa faci si unul retri.

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Probabil o sa fac si retri, desi pentru mine e off-off spec -
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Deci avem asa :

Intellect > Spellpower > Haste > Spell crit > Mastery > Spirit

scoate spell power de acolo, intellect e noul spell power

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Yes sir !
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Yes sir !

Si la ce-ti mai foloseste Power Auras cand blizz a implementat ceva gen power auras in joc?

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cherosh wrote:
k0s wrote:
Yes sir !

Si la ce-ti mai foloseste Power Auras cand blizz a implementat ceva gen power auras in joc?


CA ala e doar la cateva spells, power auras poate fii customized ptr orice sherlock.

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Daca


Intellect > Haste > Spell crit > Mastery > Spirit

Atunci as vrea sa stiu si eu de ce uniis mai joaca la full spirit ?

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cherosh wrote:
k0s wrote:
Yes sir !

Si la ce-ti mai foloseste Power Auras cand blizz a implementat ceva gen power auras in joc?


CA ala e doar la cateva spells, power auras poate fii customized ptr orice sherlock.


Stiu, sherlock.

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Intellect > Haste > Spell crit > Mastery > Spirit

Atunci as vrea sa stiu si eu de ce uniis mai joaca la full spirit ?

pt mana regen
and btw, retri nu e deloc faceroll in cata


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Pe langa regen, care iei destul si din int, iti trebuie un mana pool foarte mare, ca sa poti sustine un encounter lung si complex, asa cum e pe cataclysm.
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Am incercat paladinul dupa tutorialul tau ( pe cata logic ) si da heal , cu tona ...insa mana se duce imediat si aveam 100k+.Am incercat si spiritul , care e ultimul in lista ta de stats si vreau sa zic ca healu nu a scazut cu mult: 2-3k dar regenul a crescut considerabil. Deci ar merge si spirit pus mai mult chiar daca pierzi din mana pool si putin heal power.
Divine Plea nu mai este asa de folositor in cata ...da regen putin si scade prea mult din heal.


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Da la fel, a scazut duratia, dar a crescut mana pe care o primesti / tick. Efectul de 50% se compenseaza cu avenging wrath. Am pus spiritul pe ultimul loc pentru ca tu trebuie mai intai sa atingi un mana pool destul de mare, haste decent etc etc, iar apoi daca vezi ca ramai fara mana; ATENTIE! , doar daca nu ai in raid replainishment sau alte clase ce te pot ajuta poti pune spirit.
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