Dark Simulacrum

Deadlybugaddictbrew · Posted: 26-10-2011, 11:57:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77606 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Acest spell nu face o copie EXACTA dupa cel castat de target. Ar trebui ca spellul copiat sa aiba exact acelasi dmg cu cel castat de target si daca targetul a dat crit cu acel spell, automat si acesta ar trebui sa fie critical.
Dovada / Proof:

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allowing the Death Knight to unleash an exact duplicate of that spell.

Twinblades · Posted: 26-10-2011, 12:04:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nustiu daca trebuie sa dea si crit dar daca tinta da miss si dk-ul ar trebui sa dea la fel.

vladonis · Posted: 26-10-2011, 12:06:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

NU acelasi dmg,dmg ar trb sa fie bazat pa atack poweru tau. Nu spellpower al inamicului.

Aer · Last edited by Aer on 26-10-2011, 12:29:22; edited 2 times in total

E cam dubios ce zici tu Deadly .... Parerea mea e ca spellul ala e mai mullt de utilitate si supravietuire, adica na ... furi si tu : Ice block , mirror image, water elemental,blink, ice barrier, etc (fara evocation) - chestii utile ...

Ceea ce zici tu e chiar aiurea

"Exact duplicate of that spell" este ceea ce scrie in descrierea magiei din Spell Book

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Si ai : 10 sec la Ice block...
petu pentru mai mult de 30 de sec ... (nu am testat daca e permanent)
Mirror images la fel ...
Barrier la fel ...

Dau exemplu de mag pentru ca pe mag am testat ... si stiu ce poate fura si ce nu ...

Mahhh ..

tu vrei sa dai 30k ca "Magu" si nu stii cum

lol

Adu si tu o dovada mai serioasa sa te credem

adrenalinerush · Posted: 26-10-2011, 12:26:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ce tot sariti cu mages ma? Spellul TREBUIE sa functioneze EXACT ca si cum tu ai fi clasa care l-a castat.

Raster · Posted: 26-10-2011, 12:41:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Q: Does the spell I cloned hit just as hard as the original spell?
A: No, And for two reasons: Firstly, things like a mage's Frostbolt or a Druids Wrath scale off Spellpower, Since the Death Knight lacks any intellect or Spell Power (lets hope so anyway >.>) the spell's damage will scale according to the Death Knights stats, not the stats of the original caster.
The second reason is, a lot of spells and abilities are improved or modified through spec or through glyph, Same rule applies, Since the Death Knight's Spec does NOT contain any of these talents and the Death Knight lacks the glyphs, You'll receive no additional benefits than the base spell.
For example, a Mage's Ice Barrier, if cloned and applied to the Death Knight, When the shield breaks the Death Knight will not gain the snare effect that the Mage had from the talent Shattered Barrier.

Source: http://www.learntoraid.com/forum/showthread.php?510-Dark-Simulacrum-FAQ-and-Spell-Listings.

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Shifty said:
Holy Shock and Cleanse also work. Holy Shock works both offensively and as a heal.

Yeah, but that's kinda crappy cause you dont get the spellpower.

Source: http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/177503-the-dark-simulacrum-list/page__st__60

Read & learn.
Copiaza spellul in sine, nu stats/glyph/talents a celui ce a castat.

воронья

Aer · Posted: 26-10-2011, 12:49:09 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Gj Raster ! S-a facut lumina

Cum ziceam si in alte posturi ...(Phixels) nu am vazut un low arena rated sa se planga despre vreun "bug"...

Watch movies and read forums to improve your playing skill ! posting what you think that may be a bug isn't gonna get you the first ... no offence ....

Deadlybugaddictbrew · Posted: 26-10-2011, 13:37:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Aer wrote:

Gj Raster ! S-a facut lumina

Cum ziceam si in alte posturi ...(Phixels) nu am vazut un low arena rated sa se planga despre vreun "bug"...

Watch movies and read forums to improve your playing skill ! posting what you think that may be a bug isn't gonna get you the first ... no offence ....

eu sunt low arena rated?

lol
Oricum e buguit pentru ca nu se scaleaza cu APul dkului.. 300 dmg cu icelance nu mi se pare scalat.
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Mahhh .. - tu vrei sa dai 30k ca "Magu" si nu stii cum - lol

Cred ca deja nu sti ce zici...

Orionc · Posted: 26-10-2011, 14:44:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

dark simulacrum trebuie sa copieze spellpowerul celui de la care ai copiat spelul

branuletz · Posted: 26-10-2011, 15:25:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Orionc wrote:

dark simulacrum trebuie sa copieze spellpowerul celui de la care ai copiat spelul

read what Raster said. spellurile se scaleaza according to death knights stats.

Raster · Posted: 26-10-2011, 17:05:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Deadlybugaddictbrew wrote:

Aer wrote:

Gj Raster ! S-a facut lumina

Cum ziceam si in alte posturi ...(Phixels) nu am vazut un low arena rated sa se planga despre vreun "bug"...

Watch movies and read forums to improve your playing skill ! posting what you think that may be a bug isn't gonna get you the first ... no offence ....

eu sunt low arena rated?

lol
Oricum e buguit pentru ca nu se scaleaza cu APul dkului.. 300 dmg cu icelance nu mi se pare scalat.
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Mahhh .. - tu vrei sa dai 30k ca "Magu" si nu stii cum - lol

Cred ca deja nu sti ce zici...

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=30455 (wowhead link)
(click link)

Zice clar:

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Deals 351 to 447 Frost damage to an enemy target, damage doubled against frozen targets.

Formula de calcul:

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base damage + 0.38 * spell power

Din moment ce nu scaleaza cu AP si tu nu ai SP cum ai vrea sa dai mai mult de 300-400 dmg cu el?
No bug here.

воронья

Deadlybugaddictbrew · Posted: 26-10-2011, 18:47:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Raster wrote:

Deadlybugaddictbrew wrote:

Aer wrote:

Gj Raster ! S-a facut lumina

Cum ziceam si in alte posturi ...(Phixels) nu am vazut un low arena rated sa se planga despre vreun "bug"...

Watch movies and read forums to improve your playing skill ! posting what you think that may be a bug isn't gonna get you the first ... no offence ....

eu sunt low arena rated?

lol
Oricum e buguit pentru ca nu se scaleaza cu APul dkului.. 300 dmg cu icelance nu mi se pare scalat.
EDIT:

Quote:

Mahhh .. - tu vrei sa dai 30k ca "Magu" si nu stii cum - lol

Cred ca deja nu sti ce zici...

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=30455 (wowhead link)
(click link)

Zice clar:

Quote:

Deals 351 to 447 Frost damage to an enemy target, damage doubled against frozen targets.

Formula de calcul:

Quote:

base damage + 0.38 * spell power

Din moment ce nu scaleaza cu AP si tu nu ai SP cum ai vrea sa dai mai mult de 300-400 dmg cu el?
No bug here.

Ce no bug ma analfabetule?? Scrie clar pe net ca spellul din dark simulacrum se scaleaza cu staturile DKului, cum ti se pare tie normal sa dau 300 cu ice lance de pe dk??

Din cauza voastra dureaza 2 saptamani pana se repara un bug, ca apareti voi si va dati cu parerea si mai si scrieti "no bug here"

Aer · Posted: 26-10-2011, 19:14:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@ deadly ... poate citesti ce face de data asta si poate te calmezi cu ideile de DK wanna be zmeu cu ice lance de 30k ...

http://www.arenajunkies.com/topic/182955-some-numbers-testing-with-dark-simulacrum/

IA SI CITESTE ! lasa jignirile ca oricum ne-ai aratat ce stii .. Spell power "poate lua" si "poate iti ia runic power" dar ?! ... ce faci fara talente si fara glyphs ? ???

Citeste-o carte !

Btw .. daca ai o metoda de calcul arata-ne ... Nu te bate cu pumnii in piept aiurea, ptr ca nu te crede nimeni ... si uite asa dureaza inca 2 saptamani ..

edited later: Nu ice lanceul il face pe mag imba ! mai are talente si glyphs .. plus procs .... la fel pentru orice alta clasa !

Raster · Posted: 26-10-2011, 19:20:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Ce no bug ma analfabetule?? Scrie clar pe net ca spellul din dark simulacrum se scaleaza cu staturile DKului, cum ti se pare tie normal sa dau 300 cu ice lance de pe dk??

Din cauza voastra dureaza 2 saptamani pana se repara un bug, ca apareti voi si va dati cu parerea si mai si scrieti "no bug here"

Scrie "pe net" unde pe net? Pe google first page scrie ca dku tre sa dea 15k dmg cu ice lance daca il copiaza? Sau pe forumul asta e un banner mare in care scrie acelasi lucru?
Ai si report pentru postul de mai sus si invata sa citesti si dupa sa ma faci pe mine analfabet.

воронья

Deadlybugaddictbrew · Posted: 26-10-2011, 19:22:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu stiu ce incerci sa imi dovedesti dar se vede ca o faci foarte prost...

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What we can deduce from this experimentation
1. Dark Simulacrum always assumes the maximum level of the spell

2. Dark Simulacrum's damage/healing is determined by both the spellpower of the DK AND the spellpower of the person the spell is copied from

3. Dark Simulacrum is not effected by glyphs

4. Dark Simulacrum is not effected by talents

Da.. aici nu merge deloc asa.

Se scrie *Citeste o carte* nu Citeste-o carte. Esti un analfabet si tu.
EDIT: @Raster si tot prost ramai.. eu nu m-am referit la Ice Lance in sine, dar se vede ca tu faci parte din categoria aia de oameni *pana nu repara dmgu la fury warr sau nustiuce DE CE SA LE REPARE LOR SPELURILE STRICATE??*