[DUPLICATE] [REJECTED] Steady/Cobra shot cast time

Kr3atur3 · Last edited by Kr3atur3 on 25-11-2011, 12:00:36; edited 1 time in total

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=56641&&name=steady-shot https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77767&&name=cobra-shot
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Castul acestor doua spelluri este mai mare decat ar trebui
Dovada / Proof: Hasteul meu: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/wowscrnshot112511094858.jpg/
Steady shot cast time : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/wowscrnshot112511094828.jpg/ se observa cum castul real nu este acelasi cu cel din tooltip; calculul de pe site: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/29432424.png/
Cobra shot cast time: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/wowscrnshot112511095031.jpg/ ; calculul de pe site: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/88796807.png/

mildocast · Posted: 25-11-2011, 11:09:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Kr3atur3 wrote:

Steady shot cast time : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/wowscrnshot112511094828.jpg/ se observa cum castul real nu este acelasi cu cel din tooltip; calculul de pe site: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/29432424.png/
Cobra shot cast time: http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&&l=img841/4998/wowscrnshot112511095031.jpg&&via=mupload&&newlp=1; calculul de pe site: http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&&l=img685/5596/88796807.png&&via=mupload&&newlp=1

Nu iti merg screenshot-urile astea mai da-le o data upload. Oricum interesant ce spui tu acolo, o sa ma uit mai amanuntit la problema imediat ce ajung acasa.

dannyb · Posted: 18-02-2012, 08:43:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

da problema asta e de foarte mult timp, dar vad ca nimeni nu da un raspuns daca se va rezolva ceva

comfirm si e un bug destul de mare

sper sa se rezolve au trecut aproape 3 luni si nici un raspuns a mai fost un post da nu il mai gasesc probabil "delete" cine stie

arrowZ · Posted: 18-02-2012, 08:56:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hmm, interesant.
Am testat si eu, dar mie imi merge corespunzator siteului.
Cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53224&&name=improved-steady-shot si cu 1363 haste + 3 https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=52786&&name=pathing am ajuns la castu la steady la 1.52, exact ca si pe site.Dupa ce am bagat Quartz, imi arata cast time intarziat cu 0.8 secunde.

Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/wowscrnshot021712235040.jpg/
Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/wowscrnshot021712235427.jpg/
Si la Aimed Shot imi arata intarziere de 0.8 sec.
Poate nu arata Quartz bine, aici nu stiu.

http://www.vine4you.com/v/5816803057991680

Azwraithz · Posted: 18-02-2012, 10:28:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

arrowZ wrote:

Si la Aimed Shot imi arata intarziere de 0.8 sec.

Problema la aimed shot este ca are un hidden cast time in +(am postat in topicurile anterioare despre prob asta) care este si pe blizz la fel,acolo nu este bug,in legatura cu steady shot nu stiu sigur dar probabil sa aibe un +0.5 cast time hidden(same thing ca la aimed shot,insa la steady nu sunt 100% sigur)

->>> This is also good time to clear up some of the confusion about hunter shot cast times. Essentially, ranged attacks in World of Warcraft have always had a built in 0.5 second delay to their cast time. Since this does not apply to instant attacks, for hunters it only really applies to Aimed Shot, Steady Shot and Cobra Shot. Prior to the 4.0.6 changes, Aimed Shot was listed with a 3.0 cast time, but due to the delay, in reality it had a cast time that amounted to 3.5 seconds. Now that it is listed at 2.4 seconds, the actual cast time is now closer to 2.9, which is where we want it to be. We realize this caused some confusion (even for us), and we’re going to see if we can make the 0.5 second delay more visible in the future.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2112373390?page=4

In legatura cu Aimed Shot@ ArrowZ am postat intrun topic anterior:
''There appears to be a hidden 0.5 second cast time that is affecting this. '' Comment nr.10 https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=19434 (wowhead link)

Btw,daca tot suntem in topicu asta referitor la steady,pune la titlu problema cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53224 ,referitor ca primesti bufful tocmai cand al 2 lea steady shot atinge target-ul nu cand este tras. De exemplu daca vrei sa dai 2 steady shots pentru proc iar apoi aimed shot imediat,nu primesti buful de la improved steady si asa..castezi aimed shot cu self cast time.

dannyb · Posted: 18-02-2012, 11:20:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

azwrait vina cu print`s de pe blizz sa vedem daca e asa

Kr3atur3 · Posted: 18-02-2012, 17:14:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am gasit un coment pe battlenet: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2112373390?page=4 penultimu coment:
I am curious however, Cobra shot and Steady shot tooltips and casts match. There doesn't appear to be this 0.5 second disparity. It seems Aimed tooltip and actual cast time are the only ones in disagreement.

For example, my Cobra shot tooltip says 1.66 sec cast time. It takes 1.66 sec to cast.
However, Aimed shot lists 2.4 and takes 2.9 sec to cast.

dannyb · Posted: 21-02-2012, 07:42:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

pai eu asta zic castu tre sa fie exact ca in tooltip si acel 0.5 cast la aim este deja hidden deci nu ar trebui aratat cand castezi ,si de asta consider ca si aim shot trebuie pus cu 2.4 sec cast

PS: se poate observa cand vrei sa dai aim ca nu incepe exact cand apesi butonu de acolo vine acel delay de 0.5 sec

dannyb · Posted: 24-02-2012, 07:29:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

arrowZ wrote:

Hmm, interesant.
Am testat si eu, dar mie imi merge corespunzator siteului.
Cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53224&&name=improved-steady-shot si cu 1363 haste + 3 https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=52786&&name=pathing am ajuns la castu la steady la 1.52, exact ca si pe site.Dupa ce am bagat Quartz, imi arata cast time intarziat cu 0.8 secunde.

Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/wowscrnshot021712235040.jpg/
Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/wowscrnshot021712235427.jpg/
Si la Aimed Shot imi arata intarziere de 0.8 sec.
Poate nu arata Quartz bine, aici nu stiu.

Quartz arata bine durata poti testa pe alte clase si sa vezi ca tooltip arata la fel ca castu, doar la hunter nu arata corect pt ca nu e reparat

boscodeala · Posted: 24-02-2012, 09:41:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

dannyb wrote:

arrowZ wrote:

Hmm, interesant.
Am testat si eu, dar mie imi merge corespunzator siteului.
Cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53224&&name=improved-steady-shot si cu 1363 haste + 3 https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=52786&&name=pathing am ajuns la castu la steady la 1.52, exact ca si pe site.Dupa ce am bagat Quartz, imi arata cast time intarziat cu 0.8 secunde.

Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/wowscrnshot021712235040.jpg/
Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/wowscrnshot021712235427.jpg/
Si la Aimed Shot imi arata intarziere de 0.8 sec.
Poate nu arata Quartz bine, aici nu stiu.

Quartz arata bine durata poti testa pe alte clase si sa vezi ca tooltip arata la fel ca castu, doar la hunter nu arata corect pt ca nu e reparat

Asa apare pe quartz la orice, pe acesta nu scrie exact ci o aproximare eronata. Asa se intampla la toate casturile daca de exemplu trebuie sa castezi in 1.66 iti arata ca il dai in 1.7 chiar daca tu il dai in 1.66. Altfel se testeaza chestia asta citisem undeva intr-un guide de hunter ca trebuie sa dai 3 Steady sau Cobra (repet nu mai tin minte exact o sa caut si am sa revin cu detalii) in nush ce interval (legat de procs sau cds).

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Kr3atur3 · Posted: 24-02-2012, 11:53:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

boscodeala wrote:

dannyb wrote:

arrowZ wrote:

Hmm, interesant.
Am testat si eu, dar mie imi merge corespunzator siteului.
Cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53224&&name=improved-steady-shot si cu 1363 haste + 3 https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=52786&&name=pathing am ajuns la castu la steady la 1.52, exact ca si pe site.Dupa ce am bagat Quartz, imi arata cast time intarziat cu 0.8 secunde.

Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/wowscrnshot021712235040.jpg/
Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/wowscrnshot021712235427.jpg/
Si la Aimed Shot imi arata intarziere de 0.8 sec.
Poate nu arata Quartz bine, aici nu stiu.

Quartz arata bine durata poti testa pe alte clase si sa vezi ca tooltip arata la fel ca castu, doar la hunter nu arata corect pt ca nu e reparat

Asa apare pe quartz la orice, pe acesta nu scrie exact ci o aproximare eronata. Asa se intampla la toate casturile daca de exemplu trebuie sa castezi in 1.66 iti arata ca il dai in 1.7 chiar daca tu il dai in 1.66. Altfel se testeaza chestia asta citisem undeva intr-un guide de hunter ca trebuie sa dai 3 Steady sau Cobra (repet nu mai tin minte exact o sa caut si am sa revin cu detalii) in nush ce interval (legat de procs sau cds).

Quartz merge foarte bine , problema e doar la hunter unde castul nu merge cum trebuie.Am facut ss uri cu diferite clase sa vezi diferenta
hunter http://i44.tinypic.com/2lvmkc7.jpg ; http://i39.tinypic.com/29fqweh.jpg
popa http://i42.tinypic.com/34zilxf.jpg ; http://i41.tinypic.com/imuh5h.jpg
mage http://i44.tinypic.com/2n0sfg3.jpg
paladin http://i42.tinypic.com/66kos6.jpg

dannyb · Posted: 24-02-2012, 22:25:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Kr3atur3 wrote:

boscodeala wrote:

dannyb wrote:

arrowZ wrote:

Hmm, interesant.
Am testat si eu, dar mie imi merge corespunzator siteului.
Cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=53224&&name=improved-steady-shot si cu 1363 haste + 3 https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=52786&&name=pathing am ajuns la castu la steady la 1.52, exact ca si pe site.Dupa ce am bagat Quartz, imi arata cast time intarziat cu 0.8 secunde.

Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/wowscrnshot021712235040.jpg/
Screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/wowscrnshot021712235427.jpg/
Si la Aimed Shot imi arata intarziere de 0.8 sec.
Poate nu arata Quartz bine, aici nu stiu.

Quartz arata bine durata poti testa pe alte clase si sa vezi ca tooltip arata la fel ca castu, doar la hunter nu arata corect pt ca nu e reparat

Asa apare pe quartz la orice, pe acesta nu scrie exact ci o aproximare eronata. Asa se intampla la toate casturile daca de exemplu trebuie sa castezi in 1.66 iti arata ca il dai in 1.7 chiar daca tu il dai in 1.66. Altfel se testeaza chestia asta citisem undeva intr-un guide de hunter ca trebuie sa dai 3 Steady sau Cobra (repet nu mai tin minte exact o sa caut si am sa revin cu detalii) in nush ce interval (legat de procs sau cds).

Quartz merge foarte bine , problema e doar la hunter unde castul nu merge cum trebuie.Am facut ss uri cu diferite clase sa vezi diferenta
hunter http://i44.tinypic.com/2lvmkc7.jpg ; http://i39.tinypic.com/29fqweh.jpg
popa http://i42.tinypic.com/34zilxf.jpg ; http://i41.tinypic.com/imuh5h.jpg
mage http://i44.tinypic.com/2n0sfg3.jpg
paladin http://i42.tinypic.com/66kos6.jpg

exact asta spuneam si eu de ce la toate clasele merge cum trebuie numai la hunter nu
macar sa primim si noi un raspuns concret de ce nu se repara si cu dovezi

Tamaie · Posted: 25-02-2012, 00:10:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

asta ar trebuii reparata cat mai curand pt ca este un mare - pentru hunter.Pot aduce si eu ss daca mai este nevoie de vreo dovada.

dannyb · Posted: 13-03-2012, 07:46:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

bump!!! se mai uita cineva pe postu asta cred ca face 4 luni acusi

dannyb · Posted: 28-03-2012, 06:43:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bump!!! se fac 5 luni acusi si nici un raspuns