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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 17:42:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: Rake wowhead (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Damage mai mare per tick decat ar trebui.
Dovada / Proof: Explicatii mai jos + screenshot de referinta cu un recount pe dummy cu 0 resil.

Am incercat initial sa fac calculele pornind de la spell tooltip de pe Freakz / Wowhead. Valorile rezultate erau prea mici,
asa ca am ajuns sa caut o confirmare pentru coeficientul de Attack Power si base Damage la Rake pe 4.0.6.
Aceasta confirmare a venit intr-un patch note pentru 4.2 care mentiona valorile folosite anterior, dar si dintr-un topic
de pe mmo-champion.com in care sunt mentionate exact aceleasi valori:
Blizzard in Patch 4.2 Notes wrote:
Rake [...] Periodic damage now gains 14.7% of attack power per tick, up from 12.6%,
and base damage per tick has been lowered from 557 to 56.

In patch 4.1 nu au existat schimbari la Rake. De aici rezulta ca valorile indicate mai sus - anume contibutia de
12.6% Attack Power si Base Damage de 557 - sunt valorile pentru Patch 4.0.6 iar formula de calcul devine
Rake (DoT) Tick = 557 + 0.126* Attack Power

Druidul din screenshot are 13190 Attack Power si 13.24 Mastery (41% bleed damage increase).
La asta se mai adauga debuff din mangle (30% damage increase).
In test nu am folosit Tiger's Fury sau alt proc de mastery/agility.

Rake Tick = (557 + 0.126*13190)*1.41*1.3 = 2219 * 1.41 * 1.3 = 4067 damage.

Dupa cum se vede in screenshot, pe server am obtinut Rake Tick de 5009 damage.

Daca aveti informatii sau corecturi referitor la coeficienti, formule sau damage modifiers, va rog sa le postati.
Voi raspunde oricarei observatii legate de calcule, nu voi raspunde la niciun argument bazat exclusiv pe vreun film de pe Youtube.

PS: Am verificat si Rake initial damage, a carui formula este Rake = 273 + 0.0207 * Attack Power, si aceasta se comporta ok.
Este considerat tot bleed damage (ignora armura, este marit de mangle debuff).

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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 18:06:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

am luat 11k rake pe 3.1k resil.

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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 18:45:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Twinblades, 11k Rake Crit pe 3.1k resil este o valoare perfect posibila, in functie de buffs si stats de pe druid.

Chiar daca bug-ul postat se dovedeste a fi adevarat, oricum ai fi luat 9k Rake Crit.

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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 19:09:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

coriolis incearca sa dai link dp https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php
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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 19:26:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Primul link din bug report este cel de pe Freakz. Al doilea este de pe Wowhead.
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Post Posted: 14-11-2011, 20:35:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

my bad
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Post Posted: 16-11-2011, 02:18:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I dont know romanian but if i got it right you're trying to say that rake dmg is too high and youre presenting mmo-champion calculation as a proof (correct me if im wrong)
Well let me tell you that all wowhead/mmo-champion/whatever tooltips and formulas are wrong. Even the ingame tooltips are not accurate. I think they dont calculate the level increase correctly but thats just an educated guess, nothing certain :p

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Post Posted: 16-11-2011, 11:14:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Snowqt wrote:
Well let me tell you that all wowhead/mmo-champion/whatever tooltips and formulas are wrong.

I used mmo-champion as a secondary reference, and i did not use their tooltips. My main reference is Blizzard patch notes.

The Blizzard 4.2 patch notes mentioned the previous values for base damage and attack power contribution for Rake.
Since there were no changes to Rake in 4.1, those values are the ones from 4.0.6. Therefore formula for Rake is:

Rake (DoT) Tick = 557 + 0.126 * Attack Power
Damage multipliers are Mangle debuff and Mastery bonus.

Also, Rake Initial Damage = 273 + 0.0207 * Attack Power

PS: i checked the ability tooltips from Freakz and Wowhead and i think you were talking about those too.
Don't worry, i discarded them from the very beginning: they don't take level into account, as you also noted.

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Post Posted: 09-01-2012, 18:21:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

coriolis wrote:

Rake (DoT) Tick = 557 + 0.126 * Attack Power

It was 0.165 in DB, I set it to 0.126, should be ok now


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