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[FIXED] [4.0.6] Unholy DK - Ghoul damage

 
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Post Posted: 03-02-2012, 15:14:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=46584 (wowhead link) + https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=52143 (wowhead link) in unholy spec sumoneaza dk ghoul (permanent pet)
in cataclysm specul unholy dk la damage/dps se bazeaza 30-40% numai pe damage-ul dat de pet (efectiv pet damage/transformation este vital in termeni de damage/dps output)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: base stats/damage/weapon damage la ghoul nu exista sau sunt foarte mici astfel orice scaling din talentele dk-ului + glyph fac ca ghoul-ul sa dea un damage foarte mic.
Dovada / Proof:

poza base stats ghoul (caracterul dezbracat total la lvl 85 pe retail)



poza a fost gasita aici: http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Dk-Ghoul-t108040.html


poza base stats pe freakz (caracter + ghoul lvl 85 dezbracat total)

fara glyph:
http://i.imgur.com/FPJBv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mwGW2.jpg

cu glyph:
http://i.imgur.com/mPB2o.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zAi7y.jpg

se vede clar ca petul a ramas cu atributele base gen (dps/weapon damage/base strenght din wotlk)

cum afecteaza acest lucru damage-ul dat de pet la gear scaling:

full burst caracter +20k ap: http://i.imgur.com/LB8DZ.jpg
pet stats: http://i.imgur.com/eTit4.jpg

ar fi trebuit corect ca petul transformat sa aibe urmatoarele valori la weapon damage conform cu ap-ul base+ stats mostenite de la master

Formula de calcul la weapon damage = (Base Weapon DPS + AP/14) * Weapon Speed = Weapon Damage)

518.5(cat are in poza de pe retail ca base damage) + 26797/14 x 1.62 = 3941 x 80% de la https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=63560 (wowhead link) (80% nerf de la 100% in patch 4.0.6 care later ajunge la 60%) = 7093.8 weapon damage

in poza se vede ghoul-ul are 5125 weapon damage http://i.imgur.com/eTit4.jpg

nici https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=63560 (wowhead link) nu merge corespunzator si nu aplica 80% damage la cat are ghoul-ul weapon damage
Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=63560 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: nu da 80% bonus la ghoul
Dovada / Proof:
cu buf : http://i.imgur.com/ZH1ZF.jpg 2871 weapon damage
fara buf: http://i.imgur.com/1zvw4.jpg 1795 weapon damage

1795 + 80% = 3231 weapon damage

EDIT ADAUGAT:
-hp ghoul este putin scazut (aproximativ 5-6k HP la full vicious)
-ghoul pet nu are acel 90% damage reduction la all aoe spells
(nici pe retail nici aici nu trebuie sa se vada in spell book la pet spells dar:
Ghouls have a 90% passive AoE damage reduction buff which does not show up in the spellbook. )
sursa: http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t105521-unholy_dps_cataclysm_semi_charmed_life/#Ghoul_Specific_Mechanics
-haste la ghoul nu influenteaza energy gain

un mic exemplu de cum dadea acum 1 an patch 4.0.6 un ghoul pe target lvl 85 cu armura (filmul este facut pre nerf la https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=63560 (wowhead link))

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PWnMcSxtUJI:




va multumesc ca ati reparat rune system, dar va rog sa acordati putina atentie acestui aspect foarte vital pentru PVP dar si PVE DPS pentru ca specul unholy nu se bazeaza pe crituri/burst foarte mari si toate aceste buguri:

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/PENDING-4.0.6-Unholy-DK-Ghoul-damage-t131900.html
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/4.0.6-Unholy-DK-Gargoyle-Strike-t131685.html
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/4.0.6-Unholy-DK-Unholy-Frenzy-t131684.html

fac imposibil de jucat cat de cat decent.



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Post Posted: 05-02-2012, 12:16:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

+1 nice post.
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Post Posted: 05-02-2012, 22:20:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Great post! Also the HP of the ghoul doesn't scale correctly and from what I noticed it doesn't get 100% of the masters resilience either. I don't know how to properly say that (let alone in Romanian), so thanks for your post.
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Post Posted: 08-02-2012, 10:29:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 23-02-2012, 14:29:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Freakz : 1.
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Post Posted: 07-03-2012, 14:35:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

1 month has passed D:

Bump !

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Post Posted: 09-03-2012, 12:26:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

+1 ar fi bine sa se repare si pe la unholy...



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Post Posted: 12-03-2012, 21:36:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 23-03-2012, 23:47:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 10:39:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

bugghy i'm a dk and I'm fked too with this bug.... but this forum rules say you can only bump when 1 month has passed without fixing......
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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 16:20:14 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

soo,that means we have to wait few months(again) to fix unholy's main dmg?



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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 18:36:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

why months ? someone even told me that shocker grabs the bugs on the last pages first instead of the new ones


Plus it will be nice to have pet fixed but dk already does good damage , it's not main damage by a mile , what is for sure is that you can't bump a topic until a month has passed

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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 19:20:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ok..maybe the ghoul is not exactly the main dps. BUT..after few tests i came to a conclusion: unholy pet deals the lowest dmg.
1. Water elemental 3-6k (6k crit)
2. frost dk ghoul 2-3k (4k crit)
3. unholy dk ghoul 1-1.5k crit (4k crit with dark transformation on)
So, it's wierd that the spec wich has few talents that increases the ghoul dmg, acctualy deals the lowest dmg.




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Post Posted: 24-03-2012, 20:31:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fixed. Initial cand reparasem am facut doar pentru non-unholy ghoul (cel temporar), trebuia si pentru cel permanent de pe unholy, ar trebui sa fie ok acum

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