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Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Ar trebuii sa se sparga LA ORICE AOE chiar daca dai absorb la dmg.
Exemplu:
Feral cu shield de priest pe el, ia mind sear / fok / orice alt aoe, ii da absord si nu il scoate (acelasi lucru si la rogue)
Mag in invizibility , cu ice barrier/mana shield pe el, ia orice aoe , da absorb si nu il scoate.

Dovada / Proof: N/A. (Daca se gasesesc prafi sa comenteze o sa frapsez pe blizz).

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Post Posted: 25-04-2012, 15:39:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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As most of us who play Rogues or play with Rogues know, a Rogue's stealth is protected from DOT damage and ground AOE effects (DnD and Consecration) when they have damage absorb shields on. A few patches ago, Invisibility was buffed to allow the fading to Invisibility to not break on damage and instead require a silence or CC effect to interrupt it. This was a very welcome change. The most interesting part of this change is that it allows us to fade Invisible while taking DOT damage. I was a little surprised to find out that any DOT ticks after the fadeout is complete breaks Invisibility, even if I have just applied a fresh Ice Barrier or Mana Shield.


Pe rogi nu ar trebui sa ii scoata din stealth daca au absorb pe ei...

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It breaks stealth if damage is actually done, which means if they have an absorb or just get between ticks it won't break it. Sap is also longer range than the area of consecrate.


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If a rogue has a priest bubble or some other absorb effect on them, damaging abilities will not break them out of stealth. Additionally, if they Vanish they are immune to attacks for like 3sec after. Rogues are so idiot-proof now lol.


LE:Totusi ar trebui sa sparga prowl si invisibility cum ai zis. Dar nu si stealth...



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Post Posted: 25-04-2012, 15:45:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Pe rogi nu ar trebui sa ii scoata din stealth daca au absorb pe ei...



-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Ei au un coi in talpa este?




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Filmeaza sa nu mai vina toti prostii sa faca flame ca le "nerfuieste" Shockeru clasa.


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Post Posted: 25-04-2012, 15:52:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Invisibility is not interrupted by CC on this server. And it breaks on absorb dots.

The other stuff (not getting rogues/ferals out) is working correctly.

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Post Posted: 25-04-2012, 16:00:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nerdstomper wrote:
Twinblades wrote:

Pe rogi nu ar trebui sa ii scoata din stealth daca au absorb pe ei...



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Ei au un coi in talpa este?


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Why do absorbed attacks NOT break Stealth, but they DO break Prowl?


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definitely differs. As you observed, prowl gets broken by absorbed damage. And for example, falling damage breaks prowl but does not break stealth


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if DnD or consecration hits you when it is placed, it breaks stealth. if you walk through it with a shield later it will not break stealth.


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If DnD/Conc/Blizz/etc lands on you initially, it will break stealth... but if they're in play and getting channeled or just sitting there pulsing, you can walk through them as long as they get 100% absorbed as a Rogue.

However, Ferals can absorb 1 damage from Consecration while in Prowl and it'll break.


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DnD won't break Stealth if it's 100% absorbed, nor will consecration, rain of fire, blizzard, etc


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As for the absorbed AE mechanic, it's just a coincidence of mechanics of how stealth works for rogues. In fact, Cat Druids have been asking for that treatment, given that their stealth (Prowl) is broken by absorbed AE's, and they feel this is unfair.


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It's the same reason why fall damage doesn't break Stealth, but it does break Prowl


Eu nu team luat la misto. Tiam zis ca stealth de la rogue nu ar trebui sa se sparga. Fa si tu diferenta. una e stealth, alta e prowl/invisibility. Sunt total diferite desi au efect similar. Stealth e o stansa iar prowl/invis sunt buffuri. Iar daca blizzard a decis ca rogu sa aibe un coi in talpa cine esti tu sa ii contrazici? XD

Surse de unde am luat citatele:

http://www.threadmeters.com/rTNgTB/Why_do_some_nondamage_spells_break_vanish/
http://www.threadmeters.com/lY6KFH/Invisibility_vs_stealth_inconsistency/
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3123250639

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Post Posted: 25-04-2012, 16:13:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Eu stiu ce vorbesc spre deosebire de multi altii de pe aici, inclusiv tu. O sa pun filmu in 10 minute sa vezi cu ochii tai.

schaka wrote:
The other stuff (not getting rogues/ferals out) is working correctly.

Dont talk shit bro.

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Post Posted: 25-04-2012, 17:12:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Twinblades wrote:
Stealth e o stansa

O ce? Surprise

stance

substantiv
postura, atitudine



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Post Posted: 25-04-2012, 22:00:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BlackSun wrote:

O ce? Surprise

stance

substantiv
postura, atitudine


Inventez limba romana. Problem?

P.S: In topicul asta ai facut un post de spam si unul de flame. Daca nu ai ceva on topic de scris atunci dispari...

@ Nerdstomper

Ai citit ce am scris mai sus?

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If DnD/Conc/Blizz/etc lands on you initially, it will break stealth... but if they're in play and getting channeled or just sitting there pulsing, you can walk through them as long as they get 100% absorbed as a Rogue.

However, Ferals can absorb 1 damage from Consecration while in Prowl and it'll break.


Fa testu cu un rogue de lvl 85, + bula de la priest vs Consecration sau death and decay. Ah si vezi ca sunt mai multe lucruri care pot sparge stealth, nu numai dmg.

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LE: Hai sa dau totusi edit.... dar alta data daca sti ca esti prost nu te mai da cocos.... altii poate joaca pe retail si stiu ce vorbesc... asa ca stai in banca ta , iar daca ai nelamuriri pune mana si testeaza, ca eu nu sunt platit sa stau la **** fiecaruia, sa fac ce teste vrea fiecare "specimen" in parte, ca nu e in stare sa se informeze. -



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Twinblades wrote:

Fa testu cu un rogue de lvl 85, + bula de la priest vs Consecration sau death and decay. Ah si vezi ca sunt mai multe lucruri care pot sparge stealth, nu numai dmg.


Tu esti r.a.t.a.t. in general sau asa esti tu ? Ti-am adus filmulet si tot nu vrei sa crezi ? Fugi si joaca harry potter online.

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Post Posted: 28-04-2012, 01:13:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pana la urma cum e? Scoate toate 3 sau doar prowl si invisibility? Nu vad nici un video

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Post Posted: 28-04-2012, 09:48:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Pana la urma cum e? Scoate toate 3 sau doar prowl si invisibility? Nu vad nici un video


Le scoate pe toate 3 shokere...prowl=stealth au acelasi efect numai denumirile sunt diferite. Baiatu ala nu incearca decat sa-si apere clasa nimik mai mult. Nu mai am licenta pe blizz ca faceam eu video o sa caut dak gasesc pe youtube



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Post Posted: 28-04-2012, 11:27:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Prowl=Stealth...logic frate, ce dreaq.


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Post Posted: 28-04-2012, 12:29:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

In PvP, this spell can be a huge boon to bestow on Rogues and Feral Druids. Any damage taken will unstealth a character. However, if you Power Word: Shield a Rogue, AoE damage that doesn't get through the shield is absorbed, which greatly increases the difficulty of finding a Rogue by laying down an AoE. Power Word: Shield will also absorb the damage from DoT's, allowing DoT'd Rogues to Vanish safely. Just know that if the AoE or DoT damage is greater than the shield will take, then the actual character will take damage and stealth will become undone.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Power_Word:_Shield

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