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Post Posted: 06-06-2012, 22:20:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Why do u ppl not get it O_O gearul omului postat in vidul respectiv este de pe 4.2 trasmoged recent ,are stats in plus bun dar totusi si wep dmgu scazut O_O(gratie patch noteului de 4.2) voi va plangeti din perspectiva pvp-ului veniti cu screens si bla bla formule care arata unuia ca da Slamul in plus altu ca da mai putin ,orbeste va certati de 10 pagini

DAR TOPICUL ESTE DESPRE SI ARE LEGATURA CU CE A SCRIS ALA DE LA DESCHIS "suckyourself: Deci slam-ul , pe arms , da cu app 70% mai mult dmg decat ar trebui." ceea ce este o afirmatie exagerata.

Testul facut de mine este grosso modo incat sa intelegi cu o baza de comparatie oarecum sigura si cu niste aprecieri ca dmgu este aproape okey +/- RNG pt patchul asta . TOPICUL ESTE INVALID !!!! INTELEGETI ROMANA , ROMANIAN *** DO U SPEAK IT ?

Daca vreti sa va certati ca da Slam-ul cu 10% , 20% , 30% in plus sau in minus faceti alt TOPIC ( cu calcule ) asta are legatura STRICT CU CE A ZIS "suckyourself"( SLAM CARE DA CU 70% MAI MULT) NU CU CE VRETI VOI SI FRUSTRARILE VOASTRE CRUISE *** CONTROL.


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Post Posted: 06-06-2012, 22:35:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

kyoo wrote:
Ce zici de 48 k slam pe un shaman ?


http://www.picz.ro/index.php?id=48e80c13f95a7b48371dfef5e984d7f3
http://www.picz.ro/index.php?id=f84b1074cd40a28b01bb88f620b4f519

e aproape 49k:| doar cu bufurile lui..pe 3,8k resil, ignora resilul pe playeri? am incercat asta pe un target dummy cu 4k resil si nu am trecut de 25k( cu enrage cu 3x buff de ms, cu 2x trinkets).
Edit: am facut un test cu nero, arma HC(magwma) 2 trinkete( chima proc + use pvp) + enrage efect +3x ms buff 45k... pe 3,2k resil, si tipul ala ti.a dat tie 48k....cum ce unde? o sa incerc sa reproduc dmgul ala...ceva nu e okei.

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Post Posted: 06-06-2012, 23:01:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Test facut pe feral 3.7k rezil sau 3.6 nu mai tin minte exact.

Warru respectiv : http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225042.jpg


Damage test : http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225024.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225018.jpg


Acum vreau sa stiu si eu care parte dintre cele 2 hituri sunt normale? vi se pare normal sa dati 35k pe 3.6k rezil in full bloodied?

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Post Posted: 06-06-2012, 23:45:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Test facut pe feral 3.7k rezil sau 3.6 nu mai tin minte exact.

Warru respectiv : http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225042.jpg


Damage test : http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225024.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225018.jpg


Acum vreau sa stiu si eu care parte dintre cele 2 hituri sunt normale? vi se pare normal sa dati 35k pe 3.6k rezil in full bloodied?


http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8060/wowscrnshot052412175349.jpg

Ti se pare normal sa primesti 38.5k Chimera shot pe 44.16% dmg reduction (resil + 5% din battle stance) ??



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Post Posted: 06-06-2012, 23:53:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Snd wrote:
Test facut pe feral 3.7k rezil sau 3.6 nu mai tin minte exact.

Warru respectiv : http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225042.jpg


Damage test : http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225024.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225018.jpg


Acum vreau sa stiu si eu care parte dintre cele 2 hituri sunt normale? vi se pare normal sa dati 35k pe 3.6k rezil in full bloodied?


Facand pe warrior test, am dat 39 k pe paladin tot cu 3.6 k resilience in bloodied, am pus pozele in acest topic, insa cu vreo cateva pagini in urma.

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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 00:42:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Deci pana la urma...slamu clar are un bug pozitiv destul de major. Rog pe cei care veniti sa va aparati clasa (@Tamaie) sa aduceti si dovezi concrete nu doar vorbe. Eu ma retrag din topicu asta pt ca m-am lamurit de gravitatea situatiei la slam



EU spre deosebire de tne care ai venit aici degeaba in topic, am adus poze de la dummy de 4k rezil.Nu ma mai tot ataca ca imi apar clasa ca eu nu sunt vreun copil dala ca multi altii de pe forum.Ai grija ce vorbesti zmeule...eu nu fac pvp nici 2v2 nici 3v3 pe warr in mom asta.De mult nu am mai fac pvp pt ca nu se merita for the moment.Prin urmare ai face bine sa nu ma mai acuzi ca imi apar clasa pt ca mereu am adus poze cu full burst cand a fost nev.Ai grija ce vorbesti ca nu stai 24/24 in fata pc'ului...sincer nu int pe nimeni ca ai jucat u pe blizz(ca ai dat bani sa te joci)...Dosent Matter....Sa vedem ce poze mai aduc baietii, anyway problema este la formula cum a spus si george intr'un din paginile anterioare.



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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 07:17:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Scott wrote:
Snd wrote:
Test facut pe feral 3.7k rezil sau 3.6 nu mai tin minte exact.

Warru respectiv : http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225042.jpg


Damage test : http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225024.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk16/Spirala14/WoWScrnShot_060612_225018.jpg


Acum vreau sa stiu si eu care parte dintre cele 2 hituri sunt normale? vi se pare normal sa dati 35k pe 3.6k rezil in full bloodied?


http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8060/wowscrnshot052412175349.jpg

Ti se pare normal sa primesti 38.5k Chimera shot pe 44.16% dmg reduction (resil + 5% din battle stance) ??


O dai in off-topic. Aici nu vorbim despre hunteri ci despre slam la warrs. Daca ai chef sa vorbesti despre hunteri du-te si fa alt topic.


O sa mai fac niste teste astazi fara gear doar cu arma pe 3.6k rezil sa vedem ce obtinem.

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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 10:59:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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love wrote:

PUNCT. Close topic pls.


Tu stai jos


A vorbit cineva cu tine? Esti mai prost ca o zi de luni...

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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 11:23:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Okay here we go, SS cu slam % @ BIS pvp gear si battle shout
aici automat se pune Two-Handed Weapon Specialization will now give 20% damage (4.0.6a hotfix)
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2259389 [pe freakz e buguit tooltipu]
Dupa incep formulele de slam si avem http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=84572&&name=war-academy 15%
dupa imp slam 20% http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=12330&&name=improved-slam [proof ca se pune automat la tooltip No spec slam
okay next am facut full procs sa vad cat imi creste weapon damage si am ajuns la 10593 max procs
1k landslide 10% enrage, 2 trinkete 963+1605 strength, acum adaugam http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=84588&&name=lambs-to-the-slaughter 30%+10593=13770,9 asta e max melee damage pentru slam si + 234% care e initial din talente pasive = 32221,8 asta e maximum non crit care il pot da eu pe 0 resil 0 armor si critul maxium ar fi 64443,6 si aici intervine http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=16494&&name=impale si 64443,6+20%=77332,32 si asta e max crit care il poate da un war cu slam la full procs la bis pvp gear @ 0 resil 0 armor
proof here [ http://img13.picoodle.com/i567/turbokill/e0rn_a30_ucq7y.jpg ] nu e chiar 77k dar e pe aproape, nu am am noroc sa fac full procs mereu.
Deci nu e nici un bug, blame blizz also blame the game not the player, eu unul sunt contra la warr sa fie dependent de burst, prefer mobilitate si utilitate pentru ca fara burst idiot warru e 0, e chiar worst class @ cataclysm, cand nu o sa mai fie dmg asta tampit la warr nu o sa mai joace nimeni, cand va mai luati cate un 40k slam in cap
nu mai faceti cate un post pe forum de fiecare data, deal with it.

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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 12:16:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Turbokill1337 wrote:
Okay here we go, SS cu slam % @ BIS pvp gear si battle shout
aici automat se pune Two-Handed Weapon Specialization will now give 20% damage (4.0.6a hotfix)
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2259389 [pe freakz e buguit tooltipu]
Dupa incep formulele de slam si avem http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=84572&&name=war-academy 15%
dupa imp slam 20% http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=12330&&name=improved-slam [proof ca se pune automat la tooltip No spec slam
okay next am facut full procs sa vad cat imi creste weapon damage si am ajuns la 10593 max procs
1k landslide 10% enrage, 2 trinkete 963+1605 strength, acum adaugam http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=84588&&name=lambs-to-the-slaughter 30%+10593=13770,9 asta e max melee damage pentru slam si + 234% care e initial din talente pasive = 32221,8 asta e maximum non crit care il pot da eu pe 0 resil 0 armor si critul maxium ar fi 64443,6 si aici intervine http://wow1.freakz.ro/spells.php?spell=16494&&name=impale si 64443,6+20%=77332,32 si asta e max crit care il poate da un war cu slam la full procs la bis pvp gear @ 0 resil 0 armor
proof here [ http://img13.picoodle.com/i567/turbokill/e0rn_a30_ucq7y.jpg ] nu e chiar 77k dar e pe aproape, nu am am noroc sa fac full procs mereu.
Deci nu e nici un bug, blame blizz also blame the game not the player, eu unul sunt contra la warr sa fie dependent de burst, prefer mobilitate si utilitate pentru ca fara burst idiot warru e 0, e chiar worst class @ cataclysm, cand nu o sa mai fie dmg asta tampit la warr nu o sa mai joace nimeni, cand va mai luati cate un 40k slam in cap
nu mai faceti cate un post pe forum de fiecare data, deal with it.

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Cel care a dat pe shaman 48 k, a zis c-a prins 108 k slam pe dummy. Nu am dovada, deoarece nu e warrior-ul meu, insa daca facem calculele 48 k cu 40% dmg reduced, ar iesi un pic de dmg pe dummy, nu numai 65 k cat ai afirmat tu.

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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 12:40:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Prietene cu 108k slam al tau dute si canta la alta masa.Eu jok arms pve si slam de 108k prinzi rar in raid de 25 si full buffed + full procs...deci FOARTE RAR dau peste 100k si am full gear, full ce vrei tu.Daca vrei iti aduc poze cu recount de la toti bosi din bwd 25hc cu slam cat da maxim.Inafara de omnotron unde daca stau in balta aia la arcanatron prind peste 140k sau la magmaw pe exposed head...nu o sa vezi hituri de peste 100k cu slam.

@revin luni cu poze ca atunci am raidul 1 de 25hc.



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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 12:45:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tamaie wrote:
Prietene cu 108k slam al tau dute si canta la alta masa.Eu jok arms pve si slam de 108k prinzi rar in raid de 25 si full buffed + full procs...deci FOARTE RAR dau peste 100k si am full gear, full ce vrei tu.Daca vrei iti aduc poze cu recount de la toti bosi din bwd 25hc cu slam cat da maxim.Inafara de omnotron unde daca stau in balta aia la arcanatron prind peste 140k sau la magmaw pe exposed head...nu o sa vezi hituri de peste 100k cu slam.

@revin luni cu poze ca atunci am raidul 1 de 25hc.


Eu cu 405ilvl pe Blizz dau maxim 80k -.

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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 13:06:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Tamaie wrote:
Prietene cu 108k slam al tau dute si canta la alta masa.Eu jok arms pve si slam de 108k prinzi rar in raid de 25 si full buffed + full procs...deci FOARTE RAR dau peste 100k si am full gear, full ce vrei tu.Daca vrei iti aduc poze cu recount de la toti bosi din bwd 25hc cu slam cat da maxim.Inafara de omnotron unde daca stau in balta aia la arcanatron prind peste 140k sau la magmaw pe exposed head...nu o sa vezi hituri de peste 100k cu slam.

@revin luni cu poze ca atunci am raidul 1 de 25hc.


Deci indianule talpa iute, uita-te la 48 k damage la 40% dmg redus. Fa niste calcule si vezi cat damage rezulta pe un jucator / dummy fara resilience.

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Post Posted: 07-06-2012, 13:12:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

kyoo wrote:
Tamaie wrote:
Prietene cu 108k slam al tau dute si canta la alta masa.Eu jok arms pve si slam de 108k prinzi rar in raid de 25 si full buffed + full procs...deci FOARTE RAR dau peste 100k si am full gear, full ce vrei tu.Daca vrei iti aduc poze cu recount de la toti bosi din bwd 25hc cu slam cat da maxim.Inafara de omnotron unde daca stau in balta aia la arcanatron prind peste 140k sau la magmaw pe exposed head...nu o sa vezi hituri de peste 100k cu slam.

@revin luni cu poze ca atunci am raidul 1 de 25hc.


Deci indianule talpa iute, uita-te la 48 k damage la 40% dmg redus. Fa niste calcule si vezi cat damage rezulta pe un jucator / dummy fara resilience.


Deci indianule talpa iute, ia ada tu niste prints ca io sincer nu te cred -


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Phixelzilla wrote:
kyoo wrote:
Tamaie wrote:
Prietene cu 108k slam al tau dute si canta la alta masa.Eu jok arms pve si slam de 108k prinzi rar in raid de 25 si full buffed + full procs...deci FOARTE RAR dau peste 100k si am full gear, full ce vrei tu.Daca vrei iti aduc poze cu recount de la toti bosi din bwd 25hc cu slam cat da maxim.Inafara de omnotron unde daca stau in balta aia la arcanatron prind peste 140k sau la magmaw pe exposed head...nu o sa vezi hituri de peste 100k cu slam.

@revin luni cu poze ca atunci am raidul 1 de 25hc.


Deci indianule talpa iute, uita-te la 48 k damage la 40% dmg redus. Fa niste calcule si vezi cat damage rezulta pe un jucator / dummy fara resilience.


Deci indianule talpa iute, ia ada tu niste prints ca io sincer nu te cred -


Am zis ca nu am print cu damage-ul pe dummy, insa am adus print cu 48 k slam dmg pe 3789 resilience. Repet, fa calculele si vezi cat dmg iese pe dummy / player fara armura si resilience.

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