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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 12:04:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Zohl ai dat lock la primul topic si a ramas ca in targ.

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Fulmination-t124179.html



Doar ce mi-am luat 50k pe 3k+ resil in duel , ceea ce ma face sa cred ca inca "merge bine".

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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 13:07:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Banuiesc ca ai 12/13k spellpower, iar warriorul e cu 0 resilience si chestii de amplify damage.Da mai bine pe unul cu full vicious si tu sa fii full vicious fara potiuni and shits.Nu mi se pare anormal sa ia one shot un fury war cu alea active sincer.
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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 13:10:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Banuiesc ca ai 12/13k spellpower, iar warriorul e cu 0 resilience si chestii de amplify damage.Da mai bine pe unul cu full vicious si tu sa fii full vicious fara potiuni and shits.Nu mi se pare anormal sa ia one shot un fury war cu alea active sincer.


Da, fara Reck si DW ar fi dat cam 100k

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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 13:45:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

si cui i se pare normal sa dai in halu asta?2hits=dead la fel ca warri fury la inceput cand sa bagat cataclysm ca dadeau 1 shot si acu cam la fel dar nu in halu ala cum dadeau la inceput
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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 14:13:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nerdst0mper wrote:
Zohl ai dat lock la primul topic si a ramas ca in targ.

http://forum.wow-freakz.com/Fulmination-t124179.html



Doar ce mi-am luat 50k pe 3k+ resil in duel , ceea ce ma face sa cred ca inca "merge bine".

Sobolan cu toate bufurile posibile da pe un war ce pare a fi pve cu nukeu activat vai vai. -

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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 14:41:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Allerias wrote:

Sobolan cu toate bufurile posibile da pe un war ce pare a fi pve cu nukeu activat vai vai. -

Daca e sa ma iau dupa logica ta, ar fi perfect normal sa-ti dau 50k Templar's Verdict cu CDs activate.



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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 14:42:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)



20k lava burst si 60k fulmination pe 3600 resil de la shaman imbracat de la AH. Fixed.

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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 15:42:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://www.picz.ro/show-image.php?id=fc49a8e21164392bb7ff536d7f9dd9f1

pe 0 rezil si cu ~12k sp.

Nu stiu daca e normal dar mi se pare cam mult.

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Post Posted: 21-06-2012, 15:46:23 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

am dat pe dummy 95k si pe garrosh 98k cu elemental mastery + fulmination
cred ca problema e la combinatia dintre aceste 2 speluri
trebuie testat sa se afle care e cauza ca da dmgul asta, pentru ca si eu ca shaman consider ca e oarecum cam mare



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Post Posted: 22-06-2012, 15:00:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

mda, eu pe Jumanji am 13500 spell power fara volcanic potion, cand am toate rahaturile activate, daca as pune si volcanic as ajunge undeva la 15k(nush exact, banuiesc) .

si in SS se vede ca ala era warr cu reckleness si deathwish activat cu pve pe el, deci avea din start 25% dmg received increase + 15% de la elemental mastery.

deci sa fim realisti ... intr-o situatie asa de favorabila , dmg-ul acela este normal, sa nu mai zicem ca treinketele nus e activeaza toate odata fix cand e warrul cu 25% dmg received increased.

nu apar clasa, dar, un warr stie ca at cand shamanu are 9 orbs, va tine spell reflect -

e fix ca si cand se zicea ca warrul fury este bugged ca te pica din one hit (fara misto) si a inceput lumea sa se invete sa faca CC (slow snare root) pe fury in momentul cand isi da macro :)

Posturi unite automat, 22-06-2012, 16:00:15

Gufy, mai trebuia sa ai si ZERG pe tn, ca atunci chiar ziceau ca e bugged



nu dati click >>> Scrubilicios <<<

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Post Posted: 22-06-2012, 18:33:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-rVtfbVCTPM:

- ce mai ziceti acum ?-)omu ala da in icc gear 40k cu fulmination pe blizz





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Post Posted: 22-06-2012, 19:17:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ma, call me a noob, dar eu doar in BGuri am reusit sa stachez 9 orbs si sa fac combinatia cu trinket+procs si chiar si atunci, pe targeturi care erau full vicious (ochiometric at least), nu saream de doua zeci si ceva K damage. Am dat si 90k pe random warrior (fara increase damage taken procs/buffs) sub medie ca resillience, am si urcat poza in topicul precedent, sustinand ideea ca "da prea tare", dar acuma, ca am mai adunat ceva ore in acelasi gear si am avut timp sa compar mai mult, nu mi se pare c-ar sari din grafic damageul... nu putin.
Lasand prostiile la o parte, da, ceva e in neregula cu Fulmination. Nu ca ar apuca cineva sa faca 9 stacks in arene sau in dueluri, dar chiar si cu 5-6 orbs, la proportiile astea, e prea mult.




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Post Posted: 01-07-2012, 09:07:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Vreau sa vad si eu logica din spatele unui Fulmination de 50k dat pe 3,6k resilience, tinand cont ca in SotA nici macar nu exista Berserking.

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Post Posted: 01-07-2012, 09:50:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Joc si eu shaman ocazional, deci nu am ce apara. Am facut si eu un test acu 2min cu 9 shileds si elemental mastery pe dummy cu 0 resil am dat 28k..posibil ca e un bug si unii stiu sa profite de el

http://i45.tinypic.com/10scbnt.jpg

Posturi unite automat, 01-07-2012, 10:50:44

L.E http://i49.tinypic.com/2zpv5v5.jpg

pe player cu 3633 ressil, nu cred ca functioneaza rezilu in cazu asta -

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Post Posted: 01-07-2012, 14:33:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok am decis ca in loc sa imi pierd timpu inutil sa fac un test pt ca abilitatea are un damage haotic.La crit da imens de mult damage pe cand la non crit nu e deloc mare.

Testul asta este facut pe 0 resilience.

Damageul shieldului este: 2976 http://i.picoodle.com/9c7j69m0
Damageul fulminationului este: 20097 http://i.picoodle.com/d0bj69lz

Tooltipul talentului: When you have more than 3 Lightning Shield charges active, your Earth Shock spell will consume any surplus charges, instantly dealing their total damage to the enemy target.

Calculul facut pt cele 6 shielduri in plus fata de cele 3 care NU se pun la socoteala: 2976 x 6= 17856.

Damageul dat de mine a fost cu ~2k mai mare la non-crit.

Acum critical hitu pt aceleasi statistici este: 40194 http://i.picoodle.com/4fbj69m8

Critical hitul este damageul normal +50% ,dar avand in vedere talentul https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=60188&&name=elemental-fury (Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Searing and Magma Totems and your Fire, Frost, and Nature spells by 100%.) =>critical damage se calculeaza damage non-crit x2: 20097 x2=40194 (fix cat am si dat)

Concluzia:Daca damageul este buguit in vreun fel de vina este damageul non-crit .

Asta este pentru cei ce cred ca fulminationu da damage:D 0 resil ->>> http://i.picoodle.com/3c0j69nq
3709 resil ->>> http://i.picoodle.com/9f6j69ot
note:ultimele 2 ss sunt pur si simplu facute pentru hateri -


INCA CEVA: nu poti da reflect la fulmination:| .Mereu vei da reflect la earth shock .

O sa testez si lightning shield soon.

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