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Post Posted: 26-09-2012, 13:40:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am facut acest post k shockeru sa numai stea sa caute toate bugurile de la DK pe 200 de pagini.M'am uitat peste majoritatea posturilor cu buguri majore la dk si le'am pus in asta sa ii fie mai la indemana.

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=46584 (wowhead link)
Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: http://www.wowwiki.com/Master_of_Ghouls
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: pe spec de unh cd-ul la raise dead ar trebuii sa fie 1 min si nu 2.

Next: nu merge haste la dk.

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=50392 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: in spec de unholy mai da 5% haste dar eu am 10.42%(haste rating 1264) cu tot gearu si reforge-urile pe haste, ar trebuii sa fie 15.42%

Next: diseases....prea mic dmg doar 1000 per disease , adik 2k total (prea mic , pe retail 1600 + 1800 per tick cu BT full gear) poate k e problema la 2 talente care nu cresc dmg-ul (virulence, ebon plaguebringer):

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: http://www.wowwiki.com/Virulence
Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=51160 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: abilitatile alea ori nu merg de loc ori doar nu cresc dmg (30% + 30%) si 1000 + 1000 e prea putin dmg (1600 + 1800 pe retail) adik 1600dps loss.


Next: dmg-ul la pet e prea mic full buff 5x dark transformation

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=63560 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: full buffed petu da 1.6k dar la pet dmg info zice 4500-5200

Next: Dark Simulacrum bug

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=77606
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: nu pot casta majoritatea spelurilor luate cu dark simulacrum din mers.
Dovada / Proof: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AGFFglaNPvo:



Next: Death Coil heal prea mic

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=47541 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Healingu de la Death Coil e prea mic.
Dovada / Proof: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/wowscrnshot092412041929.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/wowscrnshot092412041936.jpg/

De asemenea la bugurile de la DC ar mai fi de zis k dmg-ul pe unholy e ft mic,pe blizz DC da 12-15k normal hit si 20-25k critical,pe freakz dau 9-10k normal si 15k crit...dar nu am SS-uri sa dovedesc asta.

Next: Anti-Magic Shell buguit la greu

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48707 (wowhead link)
Bug description: Poti fi inghetat intr-un loc prin Anti-Magic Shell (AMS). Pe retail AMS rezista la toate trapurile hunterului (ele dispar k si cand nu ar fi existat). AMS nu te scapa de stunu magului de la Fire Blast (impact stun https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=12358 (wowhead link) ).
Proof:
Cum zice si in textul urmator: Preventing application of harmful magical effects (including mage's stun, hunter's traps)
Also:
http://forums.wowgrunt.com/wow/thread.php?region=us&&forumID=1033924&&pageNo=2&&id=1869254944

Alte buguri:

-Hand of Gul'dan imobilize
- Moonkin's Typhoon (daze)
- Hunter's Chimera Shot, Arcane Shot, All Traps
- Mage's Frostfire Orb, Fire Blast
- Rogue's Poisons
-Shadowflame slow

Next: Threat of Thassarian bug.

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=66192 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Cand folosesc Plague Strike nu da si cu offhand-ul
Dovada / Proof: Combat Log

Next: Death Advance bug.

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=96270

Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Death Advance rank 2 este la fel cu rank 1. Death Advance la rank 2 apare in lista de bufe sus k rank 1 si efectu este tot de rank 1.( https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=96269 ) .
Dovada / Proof: Nu cred k e nevoie,luati orice dk unholy cu 2 puncte in Death Advance,punetil sa dea 2 Scourge Strike si o sa vedeti.

Next: Festering Strike bug.

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=85948 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: damage foarte mic
Dovada / Proof: http://i.imgur.com/yxlmK.jpg

stats weapon damage 4455-5802

https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=85948 (wowhead link) spell + talent https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=91323 (wowhead link) ajunge la 204% weapon damage + 1897 dupa cum se poate vedea aici in dreapta jos tooltipul spelului http://i.imgur.com/yxlmK.jpg

ar trebui sa dau minim (9088.2 + 1897) 10985.2 si maxim (11836.08 + 1897) 13733.08 NONCRIT conform weapon damage pe care il am.
in recount se vede cat dau http://i.imgur.com/yxlmK.jpg
adica minim 7599 si maxim 8163.

Next: Unholy Frenzy bug.

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=49016 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: nu adauga haste la rune regen/gargoyle hit/ghoul hit singura parte care merge este acel 2% lose health odata la 3 sec si weapon speed marit cu 20%
Dovada / Proof:

am facut pt.gargoyle pt.ca se vede mult mai usor in cele 30 de secunde cat este up.

fara unholy frenzy gargoyle hits count 14

https://youtube.com/watch?v=y7fN_HrQiG8:

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cu https://www.wow-freakz.com/cata_spells.php?spell=49016 (wowhead link) gargoyle hits count tot 14 (se vede cum se modifica weapon speed in caracter panel tab)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XpF-QiyyVPE:

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Next:Pe final mai zic k petu pe langa k are dmg prea mic (e postat cu dovezi si tot in primele buguri) nici nu e influentat de haste/resil/strenght etc de la dk,si are si un energy regeneration mai mic din cate am inteles in niste posturi vazute pe la bug reports.Gargoyle de asemenea nu e infuentat de aboslut nik de la dik (haste/resil/spell penetr/etc) are HP ft mic si dmg de asemenea ft mic (3k in loc de 8-9k per hit).

Ultimul bug de care vreau sa mai zic e cel de la Chains of Ice.Dai chains of ice dar odata ce trece efectu de imobilize/slow dispare si disease.Dak primeste Freedom/cleanse/dispell la slow-ul respectiv scoate si disease odata cu acesta.E un bug FOARTE enervant in pvp.

Pt ultimele 2-3 buguri mentionate nu am dovezi si altele pt k sunt posturi ft lungi cu ele care nu are rost sa le includ in asta...dak nu ma credeti k sunt reale uitati'va peste posturile respective.

Buguri mai sunt o groaza dar astea sunt cele mai mari.

Acestea fiind spuse,sa speram k o sa se faca cv fixuri utile si pt dk,nu doar nerfuri.



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Post Posted: 26-09-2012, 14:18:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

+1 la toate bugurile postate cu cateva completari -
AMS nu blocheaza nici root/stun de la Hand of Gul'dan nici slow de la Glyph of Shadowflame efectele fiind magic -

Presimt un reject mare datorita modului in care ai postat bugurile dar SPER ca nu se va intampla asta si se vor repara...SPER -




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Post Posted: 26-09-2012, 14:23:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Um Death's Advance a ramas cu tooltip de pe 4.0.1 pe 4.0.6 l-au modificat sa fie 50% la rank 1 si 75% la rank 2 din cauza ca era prea op in pvp.(Eu unul asa stiu ca s-a intamplat)
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Post Posted: 26-09-2012, 14:37:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ms harlequin am pus si shadowflame si hand of gul'dan in lista de buguri.


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Post Posted: 26-09-2012, 16:08:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

vezi ca ai gresit ceva ai spus asta " Next: nu merge haste la dk.

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=50392 (wowhead link)
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: in spec de unholy mai da 5% haste dar eu am 10.42%(haste rating 1264) cu tot gearu si reforge-urile pe haste, ar trebuii sa fie 15.42% "


gresit ai 10% haste din iteme + ink 15% haste din improved uh presence
proof: asta e cand e UH PRESENCE NE improovat (sunt pe spec de frost in poza) http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/wowscrnshot092612165634.jpg/

=> ca tu cu uh presence improoved rank 2 tre sa ai 10% +5% (din rank 2) + 10% din gear => tre sa ai 25% haste + 20% haste din unholy frenzy tre sa faci in total de 45%haste in full burst=> ca daca se activeaza runic coruption tre sa ai cam 90% haste => cam 1 sec cd pe runa ceea ce nu se intampla niciodata (pe freakz) - oricum bine ca le'ai pus cap la cap pe toate



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Post Posted: 26-09-2012, 18:29:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

^ Haste effects nu sunt aditive, exceptie inproved UH presence si alte cele in care zice clar ca bonusul este aditiv cu efectul normal.
De ex: ai 20% haste din gear + unholy presence cu improved (extra 15%) vei avea: 1.2 * 1.15 => 1.38 = 38% haste
Daca dai si frenzy ajungi la 1.38 * 1.2 = 1.656 => 65.6% haste...folosind valori arbitrare.

Cat despre runic corruption: 100% increase regeneration nu e echivalent cu haste, practic iti dubleaza viteza de regen a runelor. In caz normal runele au 10 sec cd, iar cu runic corruption se reduce la jumatate(5 secunde), adica timp de 3 secunde runele vor avea 5 sec CD, cand se termina procu ramai cu 2 secunde cd(cu increase regen speed) adica 4 secunde CD normal pe runa !

Acum daca tu ai sa zicem 30% haste, runele vor avea 7 secunde cd; deci cand procuie RC, o runa proaspat intrata pe cd va avea 3.5 sec cd, dupa ce expira alea 3 secunde ramai cu 0.5 CD, care revenind la viteza normala = 1 secunda CD pe runa.

Ce problema mi se pare ca este la Runic Corruption este ca daca iti procuie succesiv, sa zic ca durata noului proc nu se stackeaza cu durata vechiului proc. (vezi http://www.wowwiki.com/Runic_Corruption)

@Festering Strike => abilitate instanta deci normalizata => normalized_damage = base_weapon_damage + (X * Attack Power / 14)
la vreo 10k ap cu arma vicious (1795 - 2693 damage cu 3.6 speed) vei avea = > 1795 + (3.3 *10.000/14) = 4152 min weapon damage
- 2693 + (3.3 * 10.000/14) = 5050 max weapon damage
De asemenea tooltip-ul este gresit...damage-ul normal fara increasuri si alte alea este 150% + 560 (vezi aici post-ul cu albastru http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2325033328?page=4)
Si cu un increase de 36% devine 204% + 761 (presupun ca stiti sa calculati 560 * 1.36), asa ca skilul nostru ar trebui sa dea: 9231 - 11063 non crit.
Ideea era ca nu erau calculele corecte, nu ca n-ar fi buguit. Oricum aparent unholy nu este o prioritate...si cred si eu, ca s-ar supara toti warrii aia buguiti ca i-ar bate dk-i, si magii si etc.
Cat despre topic, nu cred ca era necesar...sunt postate cred ca toate bugurile, si e mai usor sa le repare pe rand, decat pe toate odata...ca mdeh, unele necesita mai multa munca, altele mai putina.


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Post Posted: 26-09-2012, 18:51:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

frate nu mai inteles,eu nu am facut topicul asta k sa le refaca pe toate odata,l'am facut k sa numai stea sa caute k poate multe posturi nu le'a vazut shockeru.sunt ft multe posturi si nu cred k are timp de toate...oricum cand o sa puna luna asta sau urmatoare lista aia cu fixurile recente o sa vedem dak a refacut cv important si pt dk...dak iar or sa fie refacute numai kkturi deastea de ochii lumii o sa mai fac odata postu si tot asa pana se face cv si cu dk k mai dao dracu de treaba de luni de zile e situatia asta.
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Post Posted: 26-09-2012, 20:25:58 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BUMP BUMP BUMP SI BUMP poate intr-o zi vor fi si astea fixuite...

Posturi unite automat, 26-09-2012, 21:25:58

pe langa asta ar mai fi http://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-2340767.html?#2340767 plus ca EBON PLAGUEBRINGER nu ar trebuie sa fi replaced de earth and moon si de poison-ul de la rogue pe asasination ci el trebuie sa aiba prioritate fata de toate

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Post Posted: 27-09-2012, 11:59:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BUMP! BUMP!


hai cu fixurileeee!


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Post Posted: 27-09-2012, 13:22:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

din pacate dku are numai buguri negative in comparatzie ku warru,paladinu,druidu feral kre au doar buguri pozitive

orikm aveti vointza eu am facut aku 8 luni un post sa repare feasturile si le-au reparat abea aku 1 luna -))

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Post Posted: 29-09-2012, 10:54:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Vezi ca intimidating shout e physical,,, nu magic - La fel si piercing howl
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Post Posted: 29-09-2012, 15:12:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

done.le'am scos pe cele 2 de mai sus dp lista.
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Post Posted: 29-09-2012, 16:47:04 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Player abilities that cause the fear effect
The hunter's Scare Beast (only usable on Beasts)
The paladin's Turn Undead (only usable on Undead)
The priest's Psychic Scream
The warlock's Fear and Howl of Terror
The warrior's Intimidating Shout

Fear Prevention
Talents that help preventing Fear or making you immune to fear:
The death knight's Anti-Magic Shell
The priest's Fear Ward
The shaman's Grounding Totem

sursa: http://www.wowwiki.com/Fear_effect
same shit: http://www.wowpedia.org/Fear_effect#Counters

Daca am deja AMS on si dai Intimidating shout=IMMUNE -

Motivul pt care Intimidating Shout e physical e pt a putea fi dat in silence -




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Post Posted: 29-09-2012, 18:01:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am mai gasit un post asemanator dsp intimidating shout .. http://forum.wow-freakz.com/REJECTED-Anti-Magic-Shell-t115958.html
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Post Posted: 29-09-2012, 18:57:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4_pnZ6SYuIk:


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chiar nu blocheaza intimidating...srry for last post -




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