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Post Posted: 22-01-2013, 01:32:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Nu primeste increase de la Flametongue Weapon imbued pe offhand.
Dovada / Proof: Cred ca se vede mai jos dovada.



Aceste este tooltip din joc al abilitatii Lava Lash. Ne spune pur si simplu ce face aceasta abilitate. Va lovi pentru 260% din weapon damage pur si simplu. Damage de la aceasta abilitate mai este modificat de stackuri-le de Searing Flames de pe target (+20% damage pe stack), Glyph of Lava Lash (+20% damage), de faptul ca ai Flametongue activat pe offhand (+40% damage) si nu in ultimul rand de mastery (in cazul testelor mele +20% deoarece am doar base mastery).

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Eu in testele mele am folosit o arma al carui weapon damage este 71-81. Acest lucru poate fi vazut in urmatorul screenshot:



Pentru inceput vom calcula doar damage pentru Lava Lash fara nici un modifier inafara de cel 20% increase de la mastery (nu pot face teste fara el, e pasiv, nu am cum il scoate). Ce vreau sa spun prin modifier? Fara nici unul din acele lucruri despre care am vorbit ca maresc damage-ul de baza al abilitatii deci doar 260% weapon damage * 20% increase de la mastery.

Minimum base damage: 71 weapon damage * 260% * 20% = 71 * 2.6 * 1.2 = 221.5
Maximum base damage: 81 weapon damage * 260% * 20% = 81 * 2.6 * 1.2 = 252.7


Dupa testele mele base damage de la Lava Lash functioneaza perfect si asta se poate vedea in urmatorul screenshot:



Sa trecem la testarea Searing Flames care teoretic maresc damage cu 20% pentru fiecare stack deci 100% in total. Marirea damageului cu 100% inseamna practic dublarea valorilor anterioare deci mai exact:

Minimum 5 stacks Searing Flames damage: 2 * minimum base damage = 2 * 221.5 = 443
Maximum 5 stacks Searing Flames damage: 2* maximum base damage = 2 * 252.7 = 505.4


In urmatorul screenshot sunt valorile obtinute cu testele mele deci si increase de la searing flames funtioneaza perfect!



Daca am scapat de searing flames au mai ramas in felul urmator de testat... A ramas Glyph of Lava Lash si acel +40% provenit din enchant cu Flametongue pe offhand. Hai sa testam mai intai glyph-ul. Glyph-ul spune ca mareste damage cu 20% deci:

Minimum Glyph of Lava Lash damage: 1.2 * minimum base damage = 1.2 * 221.5 = 265.8
Maximum Glyph of Lava Lash damage: 1.2 * maximum base damage = 1.2 * 252.7 = 303.2


Restultatele testelor mele sunt exact foarte bun si sunt conformiate cu calculele teoretice deci si Glyph of Lava Lash functioneaza perfect. Dovada? Desigur, here it is:



Aproape am terminat deci cu testarea acestei abilitati, a mai ramas doar 40% increased damage cand offhand weapon este imbued cu Flametongue. Cum calculam? Hai ca v-ati prins si voi cred.

Minimum Flametongue Imbue damage: 1.4 * minimum base damage = 1.4 * 221.5 = 310.1
Maximum Flametongue Imbue damage: 1.4 * maximum base damage = 1.4 * 252.7 = 353.8


Deci in testele noastre damage ar trebui sa fie undeva intre 310.1 si 353.8. Eh din pacate uite ca damage nu este acela dorit si este altul deci 40% increase primit de Flametongue imbue pe offhand NU FUNCTIONEAZA! Acest lucru se poate vedea clar si in urmatoarea imagine:



PS: In cazul in care observati acele mici diferenta intre minimum/maximum damage calculat si minumum/maximum damage din teste este pentru ca nu am avut rabdare sa fac o infinitate de hits pe dummy sa obtin ciftele exacte.
PSS: Am facut toate aceste teste pentru a incheia cu dubiile pe care le au unele persoane in legatura cu aceasta abilitate. Singurul lucru care o face sa nu "loveasca" atat cat trebuie este acel imbue de Flametongue.

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Post Posted: 22-01-2013, 02:49:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

1: la mana scrie pe lava lash ca foloseste damage-ul off-hand-ului care are 50% penalizare la damage din cate stiu eu.
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You charge your off-hand weapon...instantly dealing 260% of that weapon's damage to an enemy target.

2: acel 40% damage increase de la flametongue este aditiv cu damage-ul din stackurile de searing(ca oricare damage increase care specifica abilitatile pe care le afecteaza...mici exceptii).
3: cu toate ca ai gresit putin, intr-adevar flametongue nu da 40% damage increase; singura problema ar fi ca nu lava lash este buguit ci flametongue. Iar asta este postat exact 12 randuri sub topicul tau. Ai aici si formula de calcul a skilului, care nu imi apartine dar este in concordanta cu rezultatele de pe oficial.


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Post Posted: 22-01-2013, 03:54:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

1. Am folosit weapon damage din joc deci calculat deja cu acel 50% reduction.
2. Nici nu am zis ca nu este aditiv, am ales sa le calculez separat ca sa nu ma/ne incurcam in teste.
3. Nu are nici o legatura cu topicul facut de tine. Lava Lash ar trebui sa fie un fel de "if clause" daca ai fost pe la informatica sau stii programare. If offhand is imbued with Flametongue then increase damage by 40% else... nothing. Lava lash pur si simplu trebuie sa verifice daca exista imbue ala pe offhand si sa adauge sau nu acel 40%.

Multumesc oricum pentru critica teoretic constructiva! :d Apreciez.



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Post Posted: 22-01-2013, 04:01:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

mickeyoutcast wrote:
1. Am folosit weapon damage din joc deci calculat deja cu acel 50% reduction.
2. Nici nu am zis ca nu este aditiv, am ales sa le calculez separat ca sa nu ma/ne incurcam in teste.
3. Nu are nici o legatura cu topicul facut de tine. Lava Lash ar trebui sa fie un fel de "if clause" daca ai fost pe la informatica sau stii programare. If offhand is imbued with Flametongue then increase damage by 40% else... nothing. Lava lash pur si simplu trebuie sa verifice daca exista imbue ala pe offhand si sa adauge sau nu acel 40%.

Multumesc oricum pentru critica teoretic constructiva! :d Apreciez.



i love you. this need to get fix lava lash does hit for nothin. iv hit players on retail for over 40k with it. thats with them in 3k+ resil

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Am facut si eu un topic pe seama asta ,si ghice ce .. nu prea este bagat in seama de staff..
http://forum.wow-freakz.com/SHAMAN-Important-PVP-PVE-Flametongue-bug-t197203.html



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Post Posted: 22-01-2013, 20:39:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

E asta, searing totem care da miss si se pune pe ce target vrea el, windfury cu 2x proc in loc de 3 etc... mai avem de asteptat:))


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Post Posted: 22-01-2013, 23:46:52 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Cat timp astepti ai putea face un bug report detaliat la ce probleme ai intampiant tu. Chestia cu WF attack de 2 ori si nu de 3 se stie demult iar Searing Totem face focus pe target tau doar cand dai Stormstrike, in rest ataca ce ii vine in "minte".


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mickeyoutcast wrote:
Cat timp astepti ai putea face un bug report detaliat la ce probleme ai intampiant tu. Chestia cu WF attack de 2 ori si nu de 3 se stie demult iar Searing Totem face focus pe target tau doar cand dai Stormstrike, in rest ataca ce ii vine in "minte".

Sunt toate reported , cateva chiar la confirmed. Use search .



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