Raid Finder

[necromancer92]

Since you're not planning on scripting Raid Finder Dragon Soul version and now you're about to release Heroic Madness Of Deathwing my suggestion is to upgrade Raid Finder bag with all items from RF DS. That would mean weapons from RF Madness of Deathwing too.

I remember this question being brought up about RF DS long time ago and the answer was it would take time scripting and I completely agree since I'm not a developer and can't even devote time for progressive raiding so I'm willing to settle down with that decision. Even though the main idea behind Raid Finder was to allow new players, or players without too much time to devote to progress in normal/heroic difficulty to experience end game content or just to learn mechanics and have a wider picture of boss mechanics I'd really like to see all items from RF DS included in Raid Finder bag since it would motivate people more to queue up for Random Dungeon Finder and hope for some improved loot and to join global raids and have a higher chance of doing normal/heroic DS too.

[ryangg]

In my humble opinion it's no harm some raid finder weapons & trinkets(390ilvl) to be added to the bag since soon they are thinking to move to another expansion..the end is near...embrace it and face it..

[Helinator]

I don't want to talk in the name of the GMs, but i think they will add a buff in DS similar to the one in ICC currently, just as they've done on 4.0 at the end of it. But sure, why not add the deathwing items on the RDF bag?



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[Macedo931]

Helinator wrote:

I don't want to talk in the name of the GMs, but i think they will add a buff in DS similar to the one in ICC currently, just as they've done on 4.0 at the end of it. But sure, why not add the deathwing items on the RDF bag?

I think it's way too early for that buff to be added. It's been less than a week since HC Madness was added, it'd be a shame to deny the pleasure of killing the boss without the buff from the top guilds.
And I believe that they will add spine/madness items to the rdf bags, reason behind that is "RDF bag contains items from available bosses".

[Helinator]

I didn't say now or even if they really do add that buff at all, but it would be nice in a couple of months or so.



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[Gudbror]

If they do add it, i guess there would be an option to disable it, just like the one on ICC.

[A_Random_Person]

necromancer92 wrote:

... all items from RF DS included in Raid Finder bag since it would motivate people more to queue up for Random Dungeon Finder and hope for some improved loot and to join global raids and have a higher chance of doing normal/heroic DS too.

I suggested this when they removed the normal mode bosses from the quest. However, the topic was delete by a GM / DEV after they removed the normal mode credit. I do agree with you that there was a DEV saying that they didn't include the Spine / Madness items. The reason was that they drop higher ilvl items.

For the sake of it, they could also make a few changes to the bag in general:

1. Add the bosses of Baradin Hold as a credit (15 is way over the top for the ilvl 384 gear compared to the ilvl 378 from ET / WoE / HoT)?
2. Lower the requirement to 10 or 7 (no-one does more than 1 run daily after their items pass 378, since JP are useless then)?
3. Add a second quest for a Deathwing weapon (RF version) for 50 or 75 completed RDF runs?

The whole gain in the Raid Finder DS was and will always be the weapons of Deathwing, with their unique abilities. The other items are neglect-able and can even be replaced by, sadly, PVP gear. Ok, it is not completely true. Here you need retarded ilvls for ALL raids (seen 380 for Naxx, roflmao; 400 for FL10hc, omfg; 400 for DS10n, wahaha it drops 397!).

[DisCosmin]

Peeps use high ilvl requirements for previous expasions instances because , most of the time, better gear means the player has more experience in the game so less chances to *** up on certain instances, or the lead wants just a good group to clear fast the hard bosses , finish faster ,cleaner and no headaches.

[necromancer92]

A player who joins this server and happens to be preoccupied with RL, in fact there should not be a need to explain how much time you can or can not devote to playing, should be able to see end game content. After all why play on a server where you can not even do raids due to outrageous ilvl requirements. Something has to be done.

[Macedo931]

necromancer92 wrote:

A player who joins this server and happens to be preoccupied with RL, in fact there should not be a need to explain how much time you can or can not devote to playing, should be able to see end game content. After all why play on a server where you can not even do raids due to outrageous ilvl requirements. Something has to be done.

Basically, you're saying that the players who stayed here for years, enduring DDoS attacks, slow scripting, shit from other players and some GMs (including hacking, swearing, ignoring etc.)), players who actually spend their time to improve themselves and their characters with gear so they can access end game content did ALL THAT for nothing? All that just so some 12 y.o. scrub who just found out what masturbation is wants to see Deathwing?

Hell no dude, if you want to see end game content, either spend some effort into the game or YouTube things.
I'm not saying you need to be 25/7 (not a typo) online and farm dungeons and raids, I'm saying that you can see end game content even if it takes you a year to gear up enough to do it because THAT is what all the other end-game players did.

Besides, the 'outrageous' ilvl requirement is there for more than one reason:
1. Raid leader wants experienced people in his raid -> Full or almost full run, no or very short time spent on explaining tactics to other raid members;
2. Raid leader wants a fast run -> see description above;
3. Raid leader wants to show off his ilvl (only 408+ ilvl works for that
4. Raid leader is dumb, not knowing what the raid's real ilvl requirement is.

[Nevinafreaklol]

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[Zohlomg]

Nevinafreaklol wrote:

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[Nevinafreaklol]

Zohlomg wrote:

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[Denim]

DisCosmin wrote:

Peeps use high ilvl requirements for previous expasions instances because , most of the time, better gear means the player has more experience in the game so less chances to *** up on certain instances, or the lead wants just a good group to clear fast the hard bosses , finish faster ,cleaner and no headaches.

Not necessarily. Went on a alt to a similar raid (Ulduar), and they said that they were asking for a big ilvl because resisting longer in the raid for some achievement criterias may sometimes be helpful. Because, since the statistics everyone is going nuts about played/achievs/honorable kills and so on to be on that list.


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[necromancer92]

@Macedo931
Clueless as you are, Raid Finder was added as a fix-up for players who just want to log on, queue up for RF DS do the end game content and carry on with daily routine.

Think logically, why would someone play on a server that doesn't let him or her even experience half of content scripted here. But then again 'logic' died out here long time ago...