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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 19:25:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

A marit si fatigue => mai putin heal. Ce treaba ai tu cu aia care joaca full pve in pvp? Nu au pvp power si au practic 45% dmg in minus - Nu vad avantajul.


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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 19:41:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mai scade si din fatigue putin asa daca ai scazut si din Resil.50k crit cu healing surge in arena,dadeam mai bine pe cata.
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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 19:41:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Toti tipii astia sunt full PVE deci nu au gear de unde sa ia resil numa cel care e base
Video cu patch 5.4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kgWdmJvyU:

dai la minutul 5:09 se vede ca are 75% pvp resil.
Aici e screen:

Patch 5.3 https://youtube.com/watch?v=EvWR11DojvE:

@ 0:03
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Patch 5.2
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7nXxTDAWPlo:

2:58
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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 19:45:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@ heal: A crescut base resil, a crescut battle fatigue, ar trebui sa fie OK
@ pve gear: nu o sa ajute PVE gear in PVP pentru ca se pierde PVP power (+ ca o sa implementez si PVE gear downscaling)
@ videouri de pe retail: Nu ajuta videourile de pe retail pentru ca pe retail base resil a crescut de la patch la patch ODATA CU FORMULELE DE DAMAGE. Noi avem formulele de damage de 5.4.8 la spells (nu putem schimba asta), de-aia trebuie sa gasim o cale de mijloc pentru base resil
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Chiar nu inteleg de ce oare mi-a fost sters postul. Incearca omul sa vina cu un exemplu dupa modificari si... In fine, se pastreaza unde se plang toti ca nu merge cutare si cutare si se sterg astea unde vor oamenii sa dea o mana de ajutor. Scuzati , dar chiar nu m-am putut abtine. Nici ca am sa mai postez ceva pe forumu asta. Salut !
Ti se sterg ca faci posturi tampite (ca asta, ti l-am sters si pe asta). Se cer FORMULE / CALCULE / ETC NU ABERATII GEN "omg nu merge", "omg e gresit". Nu mai posta in stilul asta ca o sa iti tot sterg posturile pana o sa iei si ban daca continui
Nu mai comparati damage-urile care le dadeati zilele trecute cu ce e acum pentru ca nu era bine nici zilele trecute, calmati-va


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Felicitari ai reusit sa readuci playerii care joaca full pve in pvp pt ca oricum resilu este 60% indiferent de item . Ai facut aceasi prostie ca si pe 4.3.4 cand tot srvru juca pvp in full pve. Si daca resilu este crescut healu nu ar trebui scazut? Pt ca nu e prea normal sa spamezi de 2 ori mai mult heal decat primesti dmg... Zic si eu poate voi stiti mai bine
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este o prostie ceea ce spui tu aici...acum in pvp conteaza enorm de mult dmg`ul generat de pvp power ...mai citeste!

@Shokeru: mi se pare dencent dmg`ul primit ca heal acum...inca mai facem teste in bg`s si revenim cu detalii

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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 20:03:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HXzF4b1r4tU:

daca vi se pare normal... scuzati calitatea am filmat cu ce aveam prin pc.

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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 21:17:56 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

heal: A crescut base resil, a crescut battle fatigue, ar trebui sa fie OK
Daca lui shokeru ii se pare nomal ca pe Blance Druid am 55k heal touch in loc de 65k cu battle fatigue 30k in PVP daca e normal sa se dea 5k Rejuvantion atunci imi bg pl si dau delete warr/hunter imi da 100-200k dmg in cateva secunde si eu dau in ei pe blance 30k dmg si 5k dots eu le consum 15% viata in 5 sec ei ma omora instant cu tot cu heal meu de ***** nu rezist la 1vs1 mai mult de 5 sec
Batie de joc ERA MAI BLANACE CATA DE 1000 de ori decat Pandaria aici toate maimutele warr/hunter te pica instant sau imultit ca sobolani in BG azi au fost 10 hunteri 6 la ally si 4 la hoarda ce plm inseamna asta ca trb sa astept 1 an pana se rezolva asta??? sau CA SA FACEM PVP aici ne facem toti WARR ??? ca banuiesc ca decat asta se mai poate juca



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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 21:54:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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heal: A crescut base resil, a crescut battle fatigue, ar trebui sa fie OK
Daca lui shokeru ii se pare nomal ca pe Blance Druid am 55k heal touch in loc de 65k cu battle fatigue 30k in PVP daca e normal sa se dea 5k Rejuvantion atunci imi bg pl si dau delete warr/hunter imi da 100-200k dmg in cateva secunde si eu dau in ei pe blance 30k dmg si 5k dots eu le consum 15% viata in 5 sec ei ma omora instant cu tot cu heal meu de ***** nu rezist la 1vs1 mai mult de 5 sec
Batie de joc ERA MAI BLANACE CATA DE 1000 de ori decat Pandaria aici toate maimutele warr/hunter te pica instant sau imultit ca sobolani in BG azi au fost 10 hunteri 6 la ally si 4 la hoarda ce plm inseamna asta ca trb sa astept 1 an pana se rezolva asta??? sau CA SA FACEM PVP aici ne facem toti WARR ??? ca banuiesc ca decat asta se mai poate juca
Calmeaza-te ma si citeste topicul ca ne chinuim sa gasim un balans, cand postezi idiotenii de genul nu ne ajuti cu nimic. E prea mare battle fatigue? Asta vrei sa zici? Sau care e problema? Cat ar trebui sa fie normal?


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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 22:20:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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]Calmeaza-te ma si citeste topicul ca ne chinuim sa gasim un balans, cand postezi idiotenii de genul nu ne ajuti cu nimic. E prea mare battle fatigue? Asta vrei sa zici? Sau care e problema? Cat ar trebui sa fie normal?


Oare normal ca e prea mare puii mei dau 11 k heal cu Ysera Gift in cat form - imi tai venele mai bn dadeam mai mult pe cata
Trb selectat clase si facut battle fatigue diferit la fie care clasa alfel nu ai cum nu poti sa pui acelsi fatigue si la warr si la feral ca se alege praful nu mai castiga feral nici la 10 vs 1 iar asta cu Rezil marit nu rezolva problema ca unule calse gen warr/huntersi/rogue dau exagerat de mult DMG



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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 22:25:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Battle fatigue e putin cam mare in momentul asta si pe langa asta mai exista o problema:
-toti healerii au healul scazut acum cu 45% in pvp
-priestul discipline nu are battle fatigue pe absorb (asa cum ar trebui de altfel https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=134735 (wowhead link)) asa ca in momentul asta nici nu exista alt healer viabil inafara de priest discipline...

Ca o comparatie: shamanul da 35k-40k cu healing surge si un priest pune un shield de genul asta: http://imgur.com/CjX8nwZ
E clar care e mai bun in pvp -

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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 22:31:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Battle fatigue e putin cam mare in momentul asta si pe langa asta mai exista o problema:
-toti healerii au healul scazut acum cu 45% in pvp
-priestul discipline nu are battle fatigue pe absorb (asa cum ar trebui de altfel https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=134735 (wowhead link)) asa ca in momentul asta nici nu exista alt healer viabil inafara de priest discipline...

Ca o comparatie: shamanul da 35k-40k cu healing surge si un priest pune un shield de genul asta: http://imgur.com/CjX8nwZ
E clar care e mai bun in pvp -

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+1 180k absorb:)))

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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 22:35:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Revenim cu battle fatigue la 30% (e live). Vedeti cum e cu resilience-ul acum

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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 22:41:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pai frate daca healul o sa fie ok , noi care jucam dps ce o sa facem ??? O sa stam 20 min pana picam un healer in arena sau in bg ????? Era destul de bine cum era pana ieri .........

 
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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 22:55:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Am dat 2 insi intr-un paladin 5 minute pana sa il picam , dupa hai sa dam intr-un monk , ghici ce ? Am dat in el pana s-a sfarsit bg-ul - nu stiu cat de ok e ..

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Post Posted: 02-06-2015, 23:05:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Cam 50%, nu e mult...

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