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Post Posted: 30-12-2015, 03:36:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=115460&&name=healing-sphere
Bug description: Spherele chiar daca am 1 , 2 trinkete activate , hands sau Jade Spirit activate , healul este acelasi .. Nici pe plus nici pe minus .
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http://postimg.org/image/gjfi8550f/ => Heal cu trinket si hands activat . =26k
http://postimg.org/image/dges4rq1r/ => Heal fara trinket , hands sau altceva activat . =26k

http://postimg.org/image/l7vi3bu73/
http://postimg.org/image/z09wyykyn/

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Post Posted: 02-01-2016, 04:55:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Am testat si eu si nu este in regula ca da la fel heal cu sphere oricat de mult spell power ai avea activ pe tine.


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Post Posted: 07-01-2016, 18:14:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Shocker said that someone should re-post this issue. So, the real discussion about this was here: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Monk-All-Specs-Spell-Healing-Sphere-t348953.html
Also, regarding this issue, the same problem is here too: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Monk-Mistweaver-Crackling-Jade-Lightning-proc-intelect-t369531.html

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Post Posted: 07-01-2016, 19:31:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Not sure, but it seems that healing from Chi wave, spheres and Expel Harm is pretty low, (for WW Monks) it scales very low with AP.


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Post Posted: 18-01-2016, 23:17:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Se umbla putin la healing Sphere ? Ca la fel da heal de cand am postat treaba asta ..
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Post Posted: 19-01-2016, 04:08:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Also spheres have to small area of effect, sometimes u pass trough them and they don't heal.
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Post Posted: 27-01-2016, 19:28:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Useless posts, ALL OF THEM. Nobody posted an actual formula or something, just "omg heal too low".
What is the actual formula of the healing spheres? Judging from this tooltip, we have +75% AP bonus. But judging from the debug tooltip of the basic spell we see:
Code:
$mistweaver=${(($SP*1.005)+$115464m1)*$<bonus>}
$dps=${(($AP*0.5025)+$115464m1)*$<bonus>}
$sphere=${$cond($gt(<$mistweaver>,<$dps>),$<mistweaver>,$<dps>)}

What does this mean exactly? It calculates:
- SPELL POWER * 1.005 (100.5% SP coefficient)
- ATTACK POWER * 0.5025 (50.25% AP coefficient)
and checks whichever is bigger.

But, which one is it for AP? 75% or 50%?


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Post Posted: 27-01-2016, 19:48:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hm, as far as i can see they made some changes regarding the AP / SP conversion right here: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/220293-monk-mistweaver-feedback/#post502 ( Last post )

LE: I don't know how much will this info do any good:

''Also, do you have any solid scaling factors for Healing Sphere? The highest number on wowdb is 75% (wowhead has no numbers)... Surging Mists is a whopping 180% of SP.''
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1234264-Surging-Mists-vs-Healing-Sphere-Tank-healing ( Direwolfx's post. )

''As for Healing Sphere, our good buddy Valen's Calculations says that it has a 1.206 coefficients ''
''Anyway, I plugged that 1.206 number into my spreadsheet, which looks roughly like what I recall seeing in game. It does a whopping 8 HPM at ~25k sp''

PS: Windwalker ones are working very fine, the problem here is regarding the MW ones.

While full tyrannical + some 1-2 grievious we can notice at 7:55 ( https://youtube.com/watch?v=dOQ2Bg5_S7k:

) that the spheres healed for a 70.785 amount without any procs in 5.4 patch without BF.
Currently on our server as MW in full tyrannical gear you heal for an amount of 50k ~ without BF.



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Post Posted: 27-01-2016, 20:17:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

If this helps:
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Testing it further shows that, compared to live, it has the same base healing and 50% higher AP scaling (live is 50% AP scaling, 9986 base healing, PTR is 75% AP scaling).

For a Windwalker, it's going to be around a 20-25% buff. For a Brewmaster, it depends on Vengeance level, it'll be between a 20% buff and a 40% buff.

For Mistweavers, scaling has similarly been increased by 50%. Base healing is 11984, scaling has increased from 120% SP to 180% SP. This equates to around a 30-40% increase for most Mistweavers.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/7004036984


(Sorry that I post here, I have a q for Shockeru) Can it be that Healing Spheres have some similar "arming" mechanic like Hunter traps? Thus not activating in time when passing trough because of delay ? like in this post : https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Hunter-Spell-Traps-Delay-in-arming-activation-time-t407748.html

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Post Posted: 28-01-2016, 14:44:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Formulas were ok, only issue was with procs

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