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Post Posted: 14-05-2017, 14:14:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

StM poate? sau se vede doar un increase de flat damage?




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Post Posted: 16-05-2017, 09:10:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quick,
Imi fac mari griji referitor la bug reportul https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-Unholy-Crypt-Fever-t466257.html
In sensul ca daca se fixeaza sa procuie la fiecare heal over time.. o sa fie broken si da oneshot la rdruid si mw monk
Din pctul meu de vedere e un fix ce trebuie facut cu mare mare grija si trebuie avut neaparat in vedere cat are internal cooldown

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20754487652?page=2
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We'll be tuning the proc rate and internal cooldown to make sure we're hitting the numbers we want against each type of healer.


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Crypt fever has an internal cooldown no? So rdruids are pretty much !@#$ed cuz it's the same proc amount with more dmg


Inca o data vreau sa subliniez ca e ff important sa nu se implementeze acest fix pana nu se afla internal cooldownu corect.. pentru ca altfel ar face acest talent ingrozitor de broken.



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Post Posted: 16-05-2017, 11:11:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Imi arata ca am 783 ilvl si cand deschid fereastra caracterului si cand dau cu .ilvl nume, desi eu am cel mai mic item de 800 ilvl deci nu ar avea cum sa fie asa mic - este bug si cand intru in arene si se calculeaza stats sau este doar vizual?
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Post Posted: 16-05-2017, 12:55:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

reaven postu de unde ai luat blue post e din may 3 care se refera la update pentru urmatorul path (7.2 sau 7.2.5) in orice caz nu 7.1.5
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Crypt Fever is changing to have a high chance on each healing event to deal more damage than it does currently on live. This change is to smooth out the Honor Talent's power based on the type of healer you are facing, while still keeping an emphasis that this is powerful against heal over time effects. We'll be tuning the proc rate and internal cooldown to make sure we're hitting the numbers we want against each type of healer.

Din ce am citit pe forumuri druizi erau nevoiti sa joace healing touch spec vs unholy din cauza la crypt.

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Post Posted: 16-05-2017, 13:47:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

tomblerone wrote:
reaven postu de unde ai luat blue post e din may 3 care se refera la update pentru urmatorul path (7.2 sau 7.2.5) in orice caz nu 7.1.5
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Crypt Fever is changing to have a high chance on each healing event to deal more damage than it does currently on live. This change is to smooth out the Honor Talent's power based on the type of healer you are facing, while still keeping an emphasis that this is powerful against heal over time effects. We'll be tuning the proc rate and internal cooldown to make sure we're hitting the numbers we want against each type of healer.

Din ce am citit pe forumuri druizi erau nevoiti sa joace healing touch spec vs unholy din cauza la crypt.

Chiar daca joci healing touch spec inca ai multe hoturi si tot o sa ma omor singur de la un amarat de talent





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Post Posted: 16-05-2017, 14:53:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Pe 7.1.5 @ Blizz, Crypt Fever era pe locul 1 la damage in Reccount ceea ce mi se pare foarte amuzant, gen o abilitate pasiva n-ar trebui sa faca atat de mult in opinia mea, dar asa au facut cei de la blizz si intr-adevar, Crypt Fever pe 7.1.5 @ Blizz a fost cea mai buna abilitate a dk-ului cu dmg-ul cel mai mare. Chiar daca picai contra la healeri care nu aveau atat de multe hot-uri, tot era cea mai buna varianta.

In momentul asta fix-ul la Crypt Fever ar trebui sa aiba cea mai mare prioritate ca sa o faceti corect. Eu n-am mai intrat pe PTR, deci n-am cum sa testez deoarece am fps drop de la 20 la 3-4, trag putin de mouse in stanga sau in dreapta, direct drop fps la 3-4-5. La o placa video de 512 mb si 2 gb ram, nu prea am la ce sa ma astept.

@Kindredz: Vorbeste cu Balan daca poate sa intre pe PTR si testati acolo cu raven si Quicksand. E foarte importanta abilitatea asta si trebuie timp ca sa o faceti corect, dupaia ori devine prea op cum inteleg ca e acum, ori nu o sa dea la fel de bine cum dadea pe blizz pe 7.1.5. Din ce a dat raven mai sus, inteleg ca s-ar vrea aplicarea schimbarii de pe blizz a crypt fever-ului de pe 7.2 pe 7.1.5, dar daca vreti blizzlike, ar trebui ca Crypt Fever sa fie cum era si pe blizz pe 7.1.5, nu cum e acum pe 7.2.


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Post Posted: 16-05-2017, 15:30:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

tomblerone wrote:
reaven postu de unde ai luat blue post e din may 3 care se refera la update pentru urmatorul path (7.2 sau 7.2.5) in orice caz nu 7.1.5
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Crypt Fever is changing to have a high chance on each healing event to deal more damage than it does currently on live. This change is to smooth out the Honor Talent's power based on the type of healer you are facing, while still keeping an emphasis that this is powerful against heal over time effects. We'll be tuning the proc rate and internal cooldown to make sure we're hitting the numbers we want against each type of healer.

Din ce am citit pe forumuri druizi erau nevoiti sa joace healing touch spec vs unholy din cauza la crypt.


stiu ca e referitor la schimbarea de pe 7.2..
dar ce am inteles eu din blue postul respectiv cat si din postul anterior din acelasi thread e ca si inainte pe 7.1.5 crypt fever ar fi avut un internal cd

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Pe 7.1.5 @ Blizz, Crypt Fever era pe locul 1 la damage in Reccount ceea ce mi se pare foarte amuzant, gen o abilitate pasiva n-ar trebui sa faca atat de mult in opinia mea, dar asa au facut cei de la blizz si intr-adevar, Crypt Fever pe 7.1.5 @ Blizz a fost cea mai buna abilitate a dk-ului cu dmg-ul cel mai mare. Chiar daca picai contra la healeri care nu aveau atat de multe hot-uri, tot era cea mai buna varianta.

In momentul asta fix-ul la Crypt Fever ar trebui sa aiba cea mai mare prioritate ca sa o faceti corect. Eu n-am mai intrat pe PTR, deci n-am cum sa testez deoarece am fps drop de la 20 la 3-4, trag putin de mouse in stanga sau in dreapta, direct drop fps la 3-4-5. La o placa video de 512 mb si 2 gb ram, nu prea am la ce sa ma astept.

@Kindredz: Vorbeste cu Balan daca poate sa intre pe PTR si testati acolo cu raven si Quicksand. E foarte importanta abilitatea asta si trebuie timp ca sa o faceti corect, dupaia ori devine prea op cum inteleg ca e acum, ori nu o sa dea la fel de bine cum dadea pe blizz pe 7.1.5. Din ce a dat raven mai sus, inteleg ca s-ar vrea aplicarea schimbarii de pe blizz a crypt fever-ului de pe 7.2 pe 7.1.5, dar daca vreti blizzlike, ar trebui ca Crypt Fever sa fie cum era si pe blizz pe 7.1.5, nu cum e acum pe 7.2.


Eu nu vreau fix de 7.2 pentru 7.1.5
Eu vreau sa fie exact cum era pe 7.1.5
uite ce mai zice cineva in thredul respectiv de pe retail:
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Also lol @ all the people saying crypt fever is 'too stronk'. It pads the damage meters but it barely does 20% of what your hots actually heal for.

Si se referea la dmgu de pe 7.1.5
Daca ar fi dat dmg la fiecare hot atunci ar fi dat 100-120% din healu hoturilor de druid
Faza e ca acum crypt ferer are dmg pe tick mai mare decat healu de la rejuvenation
Iti dai seama cum ar fi daca la fiecare rejuv iti pierzi HP fara dampening
Sau la mw monk la care tot healu se bazeaza pe soothing mist.Soothing mist da heal la fiecare jumate secunda.. sau ceva de genu. Pai la ~ 10% dampening crypt fever ar incepe sa dea mai mult dmg decat dau eu heal cu soothing mist. Asa ceva pare prea ciudat.
Deci ce vreau eu e ca inainte sa se bage fix la talentul respectiv sa se verifice exact daca si cat avea internal cd crypt fever pe 7.1.5



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Post Posted: 17-05-2017, 15:50:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

legat de https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=213757&&name=execution-sentence da prea mult dmg
afara 21667x1700%=368339 tooltipu meu arata 463797
in arena 17181x1700%=292007 in tooltip e 335317
pe langa asta are 60% pvp scaling
luand in considerare increase de la judgment si wings am luat 752k crit in arena. care nu ar trebui sa fie atat.
am nevoie de confirmare ca e corect ca sa fac report cu proof.

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Post Posted: 17-05-2017, 17:32:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Stiu ca mentionase Quick odata ca tooltipu nu este 100% corect, ceva probleme cu patchu.


Legat de DK, pai tot ce trebuie sa faci e sa fugi de el, cam greu cu deathgripu lui, oricum am gasit un posibil bug pt cryptic fever, o sa il raportez dupa ce mai testez.





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Post Posted: 17-05-2017, 18:47:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Si cred ca din cauza asta (https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-5528559.html) credeti ca talentul e op.




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Post Posted: 17-05-2017, 19:36:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quick,
Mi-am bagat un addon.. DejaCharacterStats si am observat ceva ciudat cu el..
In arena , la melee classes e o diferenta intre ce scrie la strenght si agility si cat am attack power. Gen pe Dk am 15k si ceva strenght si cam 18k attack power.
E ok ? ideea e ca acel AP in + parca aduce clasele melee mai aproape de cat au main templates pe blizz (din ce am vazut in screenshotu ala de dk cu 20k+ str la 900 ilvl)

si 2.
Ii cum trebuie pvp template strenght la arms warrior?
Am observat ca in arena am ~22k Strenght (si vreo 25k Ap parca) ca arms warrior si e o distanta considerabila fatza de main template-urile celorlaltor melee classes..



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Post Posted: 19-05-2017, 11:09:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

1. am reparat.
2. e o mare distanta, da, pentru ca arms are 105% primary, iar majoritatea claselor melee-dps au sub 80%. de exemplu rogue, stii si tu -

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Post Posted: 19-05-2017, 11:43:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Dap.. la asta m-am gandit si eu referitor la arms.
Cu Attack power cum a fost ? era prea mult AP sau prea putin primary stat ?



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Post Posted: 20-05-2017, 22:14:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quicksand,
mai ai cumva datele din threadurile cu pvp templates?
Cat intelect ar trebui sa aiba Frost Mage in arena?
Am senzatia ca frost da ceva mai slab decat ar trebui si as vrea sa stiu daca template-ul de int e ok acum..



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Quicksand,
mai ai cumva datele din threadurile cu pvp templates?
Cat intelect ar trebui sa aiba Frost Mage in arena?
Am senzatia ca frost da ceva mai slab decat ar trebui si as vrea sa stiu daca template-ul de int e ok acum..

si fire si frost





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