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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 19:05:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=192759&&name=kingsbane

Bug description: Kings Bane dot - 9kk damage on tick ? Damage was did on Trillax Hc .. doesn`t exist damage increase on this boss.. This is fucking absurd. The best rogue in the World on Mythic Killjaeden did 2.3kk... With gear from TOMB 944. - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Rk4xM1rpFVZad7Hc#fight=10&&type=damage-done&&source=16

The best rogue in the World Assasination on Trillax did 1.2kk on tick. - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7jfqLrvad3VtXDAT#fight=9&&type=damage-done&&source=28

This is fucked up and not fair at all. 9kk at one tick ?

@Quicksand you are the man who can solve this. I don`t know rogue to search for reproduce exactly what is the problem . BUT The best rogues on Blizz did 9x less that on rogue on freakz. On blizz kingsbane is not top 3 abbility ( you can search on all logs never see in top 3) , here are in the top all the time. U can search on all rogues logs .

Proof: https://i.imgur.com/gxXr7i7.jpg



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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 20:33:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I don't really know the cause of it. I made a copy of his char, but even with 100 stacks of the damage bonus (which needless to say is impossible without commands), the max damage i got to is 3.5M crit. This is already is with cheating....

Update @ 30-12-2017, 20:33:01

An explanation would be from here:
https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/theory/mechanic/spell/kingsbane?spec=RogueAssassination&&version=7_1_5_23420

"This seems to be scaling with 50% of mastery right now. Keep an eye on it."

If that would be the case, it would mean a significant decrease, but I cannot find any other information that confirms this

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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 21:06:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

My damage is high, but players can get around 20 stacks, not 99. Without cheating and stuff I got to around 2.5M. was trying with half mastery, I got to 1.1M crits. which seems to be legit Thinking
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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 21:10:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yeah,I saw it eventually,could also be that their agonizing could stack from each other.We had 5 rogues in that raid.


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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 21:12:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Interesting theory. So you say that maybe agonizing poisons stack between themselves?
I'll have to try, but I doubt it: Apply Aura: Mod School Damage % by Caster

so it only increases damage to that target, if you are the caster of that aura Thinking

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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 21:13:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I also doubt it ,but the increase is insane!You could try it.


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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 21:29:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

1) 1.1M is kinda low for 929 ilvl with 250% mastery, players hitting that with 912 and 148%mastery -> here
2) That kind of damage, 9M , does not occur all the time, it's more like something random, but when it happens it does for all rogues in the raid.



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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 21:48:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

DeParanoia wrote:
1) 1.1M is kinda low for 929 ilvl with 250% mastery, players hitting that with 912 and 148%mastery -> here
2) That kind of damage, 9M , does not occur all the time, it's more like something random, but when it happens it does for all rogues in the raid.


What are you talking about?At 866 ilvl with gear from world quests I have 130% mastery.
That's irrelevant!
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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 21:54:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quicksand wrote:
... was trying with half mastery, I got to 1.1M crits...


DeParanoia wrote:
1) 1.1M is kinda low for 929 ilvl with 250% mastery, players hitting that with 912 and 148%mastery -> here

Demonte read more carefully next time, I was not talking about how much mastery one has.



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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 22:00:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

DeParanoia wrote:
Quicksand wrote:
... was trying with half mastery, I got to 1.1M crits...


DeParanoia wrote:
1) 1.1M is kinda low for 929 ilvl with 250% mastery, players hitting that with 912 and 148%mastery -> here

Demonte read more carefully next time, I was not talking about how much mastery one has.


I was talking about the guy you've gave the link on warcraft logs with 912 ilvl who also had 3k versa and was hitting 1.1m with kingsbane .

You guys had some fun.Ok ,but that has to stop!



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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 22:06:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

You are missing the point, let the dev do his work.


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Post Posted: 30-12-2017, 22:06:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

250% mastery is not something unheard of for Assassination rogue... When you have that high iLvl, geared, enchanted and socketed properly, you can have that much. And mastery as of now increases the damage of kingbane 100%, which could explain some of the really high damage. Please stop arguing however, I need to have a calm discussion and try to fix this.

Once shocker comes online, I'll have an exact copy of that character, and I'll make some tests myself.

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Post Posted: 31-12-2017, 01:06:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quicksand wrote:
250% mastery is not something unheard of for Assassination rogue... When you have that high iLvl, geared, enchanted and socketed properly, you can have that much. And mastery as of now increases the damage of kingbane 100%, which could explain some of the really high damage. Please stop arguing however, I need to have a calm discussion and try to fix this.

Once shocker comes online, I'll have an exact copy of that character, and I'll make some tests myself.


Thank you Quick , but it`s not just him , all the rogues did some absurd damage with kingsbane , just check what fight you want on blizz on what ilvl you want on Nighthold , Tomb of Sargeras and even Anthourus ( i know in Anthorus agonizing gone ) the did 10x less damage with this ability. It`s fucking op. It`s not normal. All rogues on blizz have this ability rank 4-5 in top abilities and here 1 max 2 ...



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Post Posted: 31-12-2017, 01:28:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

This is a random bug that it's happening in various PVE instances and it's happening very seldom.
I do not think it haves anything to do with having more than one rogue on the same target, it also happens when you test alone on dummy, but as I said it's very rare and random.
I don't know yet how to reproduce it.

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Post Posted: 31-12-2017, 01:38:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Guys stop on defend assasination rogue with this word "Random Bug". This occur all the time on all encounters.

What is random bug when u did 3.6kk average on dot and 4.1kk avg on crit. This is a bug not a random bug. Your min damage it`s the same like max damage from logs.

Here are the best rogue logs in the world on the same boss - trilliax hc ( these are the best logs from the world , i`am 100% sure freakz`s rogues aren`t more skilled than them ) ....

For patch 7.1.5 - Max Crit 1.1kk ( ~ 7.8 less damage ) Avg on Crit 700k ( ~ 5.7x less damage) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VP3JxTRnhq7WYNd9#fight=15&&type=damage-done&&source=12

For patch 7.2 - Max Crit 1.2kk ( ~7 less damage) AVG ON CRIT 900K ( ~ 4.4x less damage) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1mRbMF6NXnv4BZj7#fight=42&&type=damage-done&&source=211

For 7.2.5+ - MAX CRIT 1.6KK ( ~ 5.3x less damage) AVG ON CRIT 1KK( ~ 4x less damage ) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3apFQDjCvb6HBGn9#fight=16&&type=damage-done&&source=195

EDIT:
How kingsbane to do more damage like envenom ... it`s ilogical .. i never see on more than 30x top assasination rogues on blizz this think .... This occur for every rogue i see on the freakz ..





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