[FIXED] [Item] Potion of the old war procs

[Saylight]

WoW Freakz item link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=127844&&name=potion-of-the-old-war

Bug description: Potion of the old war was working fine before the fix of today. Now, it procs too much.

So, the last fix is this one : https://forum.wow-freakz.com/FIXED-Item-Potion-of-the-old-war-dmg-t505222.html
The proof that has been brought is that one cast gives more than 30 procs on a word of logs basis. (cf :
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cwzKRJVGqmA3B27t#fight=23&&type=damage-done&&source=1)

But this is wrong. Indeed, if you only read the part below the chart, you see 1 cast = 33 procs, but, if you look at the chart you can see that the potion is ALWAYS used 2 times.
One time before the battle (which is not taken in account in the logs) and one other time during the battle.


So, the average proc amount per potion was correct before the fix

[Garn]

That's true. Because they pre pot it is not registered by the logs. So the RPPM 20 + Haste was correct.




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Freakz Lich King 25H

[Pinocchio Evreiesc]

i know im being garbage for doing this, but seeing how you are fixing old war can you fix deadly grace while you are at it? deadly grace proc works (not sure if damage/rppm is correct) but problem is the proc is applied on yourself instead of the target...

Edit: The proc used to work like that, where it did damage to you instead of target, now it just doesnt work at all again (just tested).

[Justiceman2]

By your logic you posted a log from 7.0 with a ret pala at 859 ilvl with potion of old war on 4th place which represents 8.29% of his dmg and here before this fix potion was on last places on dmg
Explain this ?


Update:


Look at the logs from 7.0 to 7.1

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2azT8L63AkjCMwYm#fight=2&&type=damage-done&&source=6 38 hits
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NLDvh2R1V7FZtQbY#fight=1&&type=damage-done&&source=19 34 hits
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/x2m1rVZv64cjMQgB#fight=2&&type=damage-done&&source=7 42 hits
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jRnhBdKHfCA2b7Vr#fight=41&&type=damage-done&&source=4 38 hits
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dvzDpWnjRYG3TfcL#fight=1&&type=damage-done&&source=3 43 hits max found
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RnJkqb3x2Tfdhmac#fight=13&&type=damage-done&&source=19 35 hits
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yAWqxDbg2mLG741V#fight=6&&type=damage-done&&source=202 37 hits
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BXgZJYt4Qpk2TaHV#fight=5&&type=damage-done&&source=4 31 hits
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2rYvBAFaXZ9Qxzj8#fight=1&&type=damage-done&&source=9 26 hits
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PjRNB4VLd8FpHw1n#fight=2&&type=damage-done&&source=13 36 hits

etc

As you can see you can have a min of 15 i saw on 1 log and max of 43 hits depends on your haste
At my video i did 19 hits on prepot and 23 on second use
My haste is 24% default 27% mark of claw proc
+we play with mark of the claw which gave us 3-4% haste and on these logs they play with Mark of the Hidden Satyr which dont work


https://youtube.com/watch?v=puJ2CFtTuW8:



@quick ? reject?

[Saylight]

The log that I used as an example comes from one of your proofs in the former topic.
You're pointing out the fact that the potion is the second damage source in several logs. But these some of these logs are short, 3min maximum. Once you look at a longer log of 5:22 ( https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BXgZJYt4Qpk2TaHV#fight=5&&type=damage-done&&source=4 ) , it only do 4-5% of the total damage and it takes the 7th place in the damage sources, just above the melee damage. I explain the difference by the length of the fight.


I checked all these logs and the maximum procs amount for one potion is 22. And it was under Crusade (+45% haste) and Bloodlust (+25%). For the second use, only with crusade, there are around 15-18 procs, rarely more. (Right now on Freakz, I'm at ~25 procs with crusade and without bloodlust)
I'm just pointing out the fact that in the former fix, it has been said that for one potion of old war, they got more than 30-35 procs. And this is wrong because they used 2 potions. It was fine before the fix, in my opinion.

[Quicksand]

@Saylight I changed it to 20 + RPPM for the total duration of the pot. Instead of 1 minute. It wasn't really fine before the fix. I mean I tried with ~120% haste, I got like 10-11 procs in 25 seconds. Even if you prepot and use it twice, you'd get around 20-22 procs in 2 casts. I also played retail and can confirm, that even with a simple bloodlust on a fury warrior, I got 16-17 procs per a cast. That was impossible to achieve on our server due to the fact that RPPM limits procs really well.

[Saylight]

So Quicksand, do you think it's fine ?
I got 25 procs for one potion this afternoom (https://imgur.com/a/fQejC). And on these logs, they can't even reach it with bloodlust. So, I still think it procs a little bit too often. But maybe it is pure RNG and they could do it.
I trust you if you say it's fine but this is weird.

[marawind]

https://imgur.com/a/SM4TT

this is how it looked on cenarius mythic with BL and so on with 2 potions of the old war
warrior 907 ilvl. i had a fight with 32 procs WITH PREPOT

[Quicksand]

That's what I'm saying. People usually got that much. I'll leave this topic open for a while. I'm thinking of nerfing the proc rate by about 20% maybe. The trinket was not modified since 7.1.5 (the proc rate at least), so I will conduct my own tests on retail with several characters and reproduce them on here, then adjust the proc rate to match it.

[Quicksand]

Fixed