[Warrior][Protection] Never Surrender v2

Fixondrius · Posted: 06-10-2020, 16:25:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: Trello Card, Forum Post, Never Surrender

Bug description: It was wrongfully rejected on Trello. "but there is a cap in the absorb calculations in our script, which can go up to 6 times the base amount at the moment you cast Ignore Pain, if you have Never Surrender talent, if not, 3 times." That's exactly the issue. It shouldn't work like that. The cap should be scaling between 3x and 6x depending on your current health.
Attached pictures below from retail (bfa), the ignore pain values have changed since legion but the talent hasn't.

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/ytLpUtZ

Mighty · Last edited by Mighty on 08-10-2020, 14:37:02; edited 1 time in total

Partially true,link proper freakz proof.

wael47 · Posted: 09-10-2020, 00:18:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/REJECTED-Warrior-Protection-Ignore-Pain-calculation-t571318.html Here is the proof. and cap is not linked on ur current hp.

Fixondrius · Last edited by Fixondrius on 09-10-2020, 12:12:48; edited 1 time in total

Mighty wrote:

Partially true,link proper freakz proof.

There are bunch of pictures on trello provided by the almighty Blyst. + Captain Shampooing himself admitted that it just flat doubles the cap : https://imgur.com/a/ZLnPEl9
https://youtu.be/BaIH6321sqo

Mighty · Last edited by Mighty on 09-10-2020, 12:48:30; edited 1 time in total

Yes but show me in game testing screens as Cpt. Shampooing said with never surender and 1 stack of ignore pain, low and full HP then do the same without never surrender.Then do the same with 2 60 rage ignore pains then with 3 60 rage ignore pains.

Fixondrius · Last edited by Fixondrius on 09-10-2020, 13:09:10; edited 1 time in total

I don't understand why you want to see 1 stack. That's not the issue, that's not what the original post nor this one is about.
The issue comes when you use it multiple times.
Currently on freakz as shown by Blyst here even if you are on 100% HP your ignore pain will stack 6x.
That should not be a thing. The number of stacks possible should scale between 100% HP - 3x stacks and 0% HP - 6x stacks.

It's plain *** dumb that taking the talent doubles your ignore pain cap, while in the same row you have Indomitable that only increases it by 20%.
Never Surrender was a useless garbage talent on retail becuz it had 0 effect when on full HP.

Update @ 09-10-2020, 13:07:39

For future (and past) reference, when the original post or I have said "cap", that meant the maximum number of stacks you can achieve.

Having that in mind, I again say, the CAP so the maximum number of stacks you can achieve should be scaling between 3x and 6x depending on your CURRENT health, having lower HP allowing you to stack more and more.
(earlier in this topic I posted picture of it in BFA, there it works as 1.3x single use on full HP, 2.6x single use on 0 HP)

Update @ 09-10-2020, 13:11:10

The individual stacks are working just fine, but they should stop stacking after 3 times if you're on max HP, never surrender or not

Mighty · Posted: 09-10-2020, 13:44:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Exactly, this is why i told u to test them 1 by 1.Per individual stack, they give the same value, until u reach 3 stacks which should be the cap at full hp.The issue is u are able to stack it more than 3x even on full hp. But in order u achieve that ull need to spend what, 360 rage to benefit fully from it? How will u get 360 rage playing without devastator? The reason undomitable is better is because it gives more ignore pain per stack meaning to get its full value+20% per stack u only need to spend half the rage of never surrender. How many prots have u seen actually playin never surrender over these 2 here? Confirmed.