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[REJECTED] [Warrior] Fury Warrior Missing Damage From Weapons
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Don.LukyaNo
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Posted: 30-01-2021, 02:55:28
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Character name:Donlukyano
Bug description: My abilities are missing a significant amount of damage from Weapon Damage.Only attack power increases my ability damage as of now.My main weapon should give a me a huge increase in overall damage but if i remove it i only lose the 360 AP that is on the weapon.So basically my weapons are useless sticks with 300 strength and secondaries.
https://www.wowhead.com/news=281913/battle-for-azeroth-new-formula-for-calculating-ability-damage
https://massivelyop.com/2018/02/16/world-of-warcraft-is-using-new-damage-formulas-in-the-battle-for-azeroth-alpha/
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/7xt1xn/battle_for_azeroth_new_formula_for_calculating/
https://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/theory/mechanic/function/abilitydamage?spec=WarriorFury&&version=9_0
This is SL damage formula which should be the same as BFA since there is nothing new on anything getting modified at all.It changed from Legion to BFA and it stayed the same in SL.
Found the only topics talking about this formula change from legion formula.
Proof: The proof goes as follows:
I have tried to compare my base numbers with blizz numbers with the same Strength/Attack Power Value and see the difference as it is from 8.0 patch having in consideration the player having like 5% vers on him whatever i could not find any better comparison.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LhxAToTwRLE:
1) 6:10 He has 1255 weapon Dps and and 4900 strength and 5400 Attack Power.
https://imgur.com/a/NwCP1U5
And here you can see my stats 2k Weapon Dps and 7570 AP. Also from what you can see having my offhand equiped gives me more dps than having my main hand equiped which is really strange and buggy because when i played on retail my main hand gave me an insane boost in overall abilities damage whereas the offhand was giving little boost in comparison to main weapon.
So lets compare some ability flat damage with battle shout on with the guy from the video with roughly same AP and damage as me:
2) 6:45 He hovers over furious slash which has 2k flat damage with those stats and now look at my furios slash with roughly same stats
https://imgur.com/a/HSiZesw
Around 15% damage missing.(around 10% substracting his versa)
3) 7:23 He hovers over Whirlwind which has 1900 damage and my whirlwind has
https://imgur.com/a/LTQ21wA
Again around 15% damage missing.(around 10% substracting his versa)
4) 7:43 He hovers over Siegebreaker which deals 5k damage and now look at my Siegebreaker
https://imgur.com/a/iiNru5s
Around 15% damage missing.(around 10% substracting his versa)
5) 5:20 He hovers over Raging Blow which has a total of 4400 damage and now look at my RB
https://imgur.com/a/mBrGzFB
Again around 15% damage missing.(around 10% substracting his versa)
This is my full 394 ilvl Raging Blow damage and then Raging Blow damage with my main 395 ilvl weapon removed.Only difference is the 360 AP that i lost.So basically weapon lvl is useless for me
https://imgur.com/a/DCuJykz
I believe the problem is the abilities not scaling with both Weapon dps and Attack Power as it should.It only scales with Attack Power i believe.I'm open to discussion as to why is this happening.
I have not tested other melee classes/specs but maybe the problem persists there too i dont have time to test everything so sorry for that.
Also another thing worth mentioning.
https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/21973195-hotfixes-september-25-2018/
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Uq1CRRr1_wc:
in 8.0 Fury got a 6% aura buff from blizz idk if it's live or not.
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Posted: 30-01-2021, 11:51:34
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i think you should test your damage on a dummy
because what you are showing here are just tooltips
i play hunter who also is dependent on weapon dps and i've noticed that tooltips are bugged
when i test my damage on a dummy with a low level weapon, then the damage done corresponds to the tooltip 100%
but when i use high level weapon, the damage done is BIGGER than the damage shown in the tooltip
i may suggest that weapon dps is ignored in the tooltips
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Posted: 30-01-2021, 12:01:25
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Durotar wrote:
i think you should test your damage on a dummy
because what you are showing here are just tooltips
i play hunter who also is dependent on weapon dps and i've noticed that tooltips are bugged
when i test my damage on a dummy with a low level weapon, then the damage done corresponds to the tooltip 100%
but when i use high level weapon, the damage done is BIGGER than the damage shown in the tooltip
i may suggest that weapon dps is ignored in the tooltips
And again someone talking about hunters in a Fury warrior post.I said i did not test other classes/specs if you know anything specific on warrior feel free to inform me if not please stick to the post.
I did test indeed on dummy and the difference between a 325 weapon and a 395 is the AP difference like 3% damage which i said above that it only gives me strength on my abilities and the ability damage does not scale with wep damage too.
It might work properly on other specs/classes like you said.
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Posted: 30-01-2021, 15:46:59
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Hmm interesting,
I wouldn't really compare 8.0 to 8.3.7 in terms of raw damage output. However, I do have a bit of advice for you. Just test few spells and break it down in a mathematical format. Then the Warrior Class mod can check if you are missing any mods.
Please do consider that fury warrior also gone through some nerfs since 8.0.
Here is furry warrior current aura:
https://testbfa.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=137050&&name=fury-warrior
Good luck
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Posted: 30-01-2021, 16:01:25
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Yeah,ty for the reply zeakey. Exactly as zeakey said, could u provide more info related to how u calculated and reached the values u reached and realised they are wrong? Also, this is the fury's current aura
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=137050&&name=fury-warrior
, so for future reports do check this first.As durotar said earlier,tooltips arent always the most accurate, so i wouldnt base my report just on that.
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Posted: 31-01-2021, 08:48:15
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I stopped playing with my fury war because of low damage. When my havoc dh with 10 item level lower doing like +2k more damage on dummy than my war. Maybe this is the reason. Hope they fix this so i can go back and play with my war again.
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Posted: 02-02-2021, 11:34:13
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https://imgur.com/a/bjZH7ea
Here is an example, we have 1614 attack power, we gonna substract the -6% fury's aura out of it and we get 1517. Then we gonna multiply it with the AP coefficient of that specific spell, which is 85% so 1517x0.85=1289 which matches the tooltip perfectly.
Rejected, feel free to make another report if u get more concludent info.
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