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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 00:32:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link:
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=234153&&name=drain-life
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=Inevitable+Demise
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I tested on 3 player (dh 455 ilvl, hunter 455 ilvl, priest 479ilvl) my ilvl is 182 ilvl when test on dh and 302 ilvl when test on hunter + priest (i drop gear to bag for test drain life or pvp scaling bug, my max ilvl is 480).

Formula: drain life will heal me = 165% damage done at 50 stacks (inevitable demise trait).

Method test: record video, pause and count number.

Result from test in bg:
1. I attack dh, drain life damage show 32k but only heal me 26k hp, i count his HP loss 25k each tick drail life, if it deal 25k, it should heal me 25k * 165% = 41.2k hp. DH said 600 damage agony, it show 943, 1021 damage on my screen.
2. I attack hunter, drain life damage show 47k but only heal me 32k hp, i count his HP loss 31k each tick drain life, if it deal 31k, it should heal me 32k * 165% = 52.8k hp
3. I attack priest, drain life damage show 36k but only heal me 38k hp, i count his HP loss 36k each tick drain life (work right), if it deal 36k, it should heal me 36k * 165% = 59.4k hp

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My damage on hunter and dh + my healing lower than damage + healing show on my screen, dh have more 273 ilvl than me, hunter more than 153 ilvl than me => pvp scaling bug, i think it count ilvl in my bag, mean when i naked, I will still be under the effect of my max ilvl
My damage on priest show same on my screen, but my healing lower it should, priest more than me 297 ilvl => drain life healing bug too.

Before test, i drop gear in bag, relog + full relog before join bg. I record video when have 0 debuff reduce healing effect on me.
I didn't test in arena because dampening, hard to caculate exactly number but i checked skada + detail addon, it has same result low healing.

Proof:
1. Test on dh
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hAxM_cKROng:



2. Test on hunter
https://youtube.com/watch?v=a4BTDnUtXmM:



3. Test on priest
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tr_L-1ckcdU:




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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 02:49:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I'm pretty sure this is due to fact that PvP Scaling got implemented.
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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 10:57:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Zlu wrote:
I'm pretty sure this is due to fact that PvP Scaling got implemented.


If pvp scaling has been turned on, i should do damage on enemy + healing myself more than number show on my screen but in these case, i do all lower

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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 11:34:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Is due to PvP scaling. You're scaling to your highest Ilvl (to avoid exploits like bagging your items and oneshotting peeps)


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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 12:22:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Amnezx wrote:
Is due to PvP scaling. You're scaling to your highest Ilvl (to avoid exploits like bagging your items and oneshotting peeps)

If it calculates items in your bag thats insanely good ,people always tried to avoid game systems and exploit.



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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 13:57:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Amnezx wrote:
Is due to PvP scaling. You're scaling to your highest Ilvl (to avoid exploits like bagging your items and oneshotting peeps)


ryangg wrote:
Amnezx wrote:
Is due to PvP scaling. You're scaling to your highest Ilvl (to avoid exploits like bagging your items and oneshotting peeps)

If it calculates items in your bag thats insanely good ,people always tried to avoid game systems and exploit.


So what will happen now if i donate a new char and just buy some gear i need? so highgest ilvl i have only 182, nothing current stuff in my bag. The result is the same ilvl, same gear, same class but one do better damage done, more healing and more reduce damage taken, the other with current max ilvl with more stuff in bag will do lower at all?



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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 14:14:43 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

vuanhlam92 wrote:
Amnezx wrote:
Is due to PvP scaling. You're scaling to your highest Ilvl (to avoid exploits like bagging your items and oneshotting peeps)


ryangg wrote:
Amnezx wrote:
Is due to PvP scaling. You're scaling to your highest Ilvl (to avoid exploits like bagging your items and oneshotting peeps)

If it calculates items in your bag thats insanely good ,people always tried to avoid game systems and exploit.


So what will happen now if i donate a new char and just buy some gear i need? so highgest ilvl i have only 182, nothing current stuff in my bag. The result is the same ilvl, same gear, same class but one do better damage done, more healing and more reduce damage taken, the other with current max ilvl with more stuff in bag will do lower at all?


Yes, it will do lower, because It scales you at 480 ilvl from your bags/bank. It works as intended to avoid exploits (480 geared people unequipping 1-2 item slots to drop their ilvl in order to increase their overall damage).

Also check: https://imgur.com/a/1mtMxzc

You can test it on Dummy. Also Drain life might have some PvP mods too





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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 14:42:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

For example: If 2 people have same gear, one got loot more higher ilvl stuff in m+ and raid with stat for pve, he only wear it for pve and drop in bag/bank, he will use lower ilvl gear with best stat for pvp, another one use same ilvl with best stat for pvp (same as people before) but have nothing in bag/bank (because he don't care about pve and delete it), result will 2 ppl same current gear on character but the one will do better, the one will weaker in pvp, is it fair? if the server decides how pvp scaling work as intend, i will creat a new account just for pvp, make a new character, after that I just buy some necessary gear for pvp, i will do more better when compare with current character.
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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 15:13:27 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

vuanhlam92 wrote:
For example: If 2 people have same gear, one got loot more higher ilvl stuff in m+ and raid with stat for pve, he only wear it for pve and drop in bag/bank, he will use lower ilvl gear with best stat for pvp, another one use same ilvl with best stat for pvp (same as people before) but have nothing in bag/bank (because he don't care about pve and delete it), result will 2 ppl same current gear on character but the one will do better, the one will weaker in pvp, is it fair? if the server decides how pvp scaling work as intend, i will creat a new account just for pvp, make a new character, after that I just buy some necessary gear for pvp, i will do more better when compare with current character.


You wouldn't. I already pointed out that it scales just the ilvl, stats doesn't matter. You would like to see things like Rextroy oneshots because youcan bank some gear? I don't think so. Plus PvP scaling has a ilvl cap here. Last season was 425, I think this season is 455 (last season's BIS), if you're getting past that, Scaling won't work anymore.



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Post Posted: 18-10-2021, 16:13:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Amnezx wrote:


Also check: https://imgur.com/a/1mtMxzc

You can test it on Dummy. Also Drain life might have some PvP mods too


I think we are at 8.3.7, not Shadowland 9.0.2, when all class have more changes aura, modified, pvp multiplier. Your proof post from 2021/02/10



If you wanna check how drainlife work in pvp 8.3, see this video from Xrathis, he's retail player and has more guide all warlock spec, he set combat log so you can ez to check how drain damage + healing (ex: 1:52. 3:15, 3:38, more are more...)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YLVuAha6ykw:


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Post Posted: 20-10-2021, 16:01:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

This is due to both PvP scaling and the fact that Inevitable Demise gradually lowers your healing from Drain Life for each stack you have, down to 165% at 50. If you're confident there's actually something wrong here, make a more concise report with more proof and PvP scaling/inevitable demise taken into account.

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