[5.4.8] Destruction Warlock Discussion

[phil777]

I do have reforgeLite. o.O Here's my character: https://armory.freakz.ro/character/genesis/felbeard

And overlook the volatile talisman of the shado-pan, I'm trying to get it replaced with Meg's Hydra Breath. >.>

[Orga]

The addon works fine , swap versions .

[pixcals]

phil777 wrote:

I do have reforgeLite. o.O Here's my character: https://armory.freakz.ro/character/genesis/felbeard And overlook the volatile talisman of the shado-pan, I'm trying to get it replaced with Meg's Hydra Breath. >.>

with the gear you have you should be hit capped so actually respecting a +60 hit bonus on ur neck piece is not really worth it same goes for +60 intellect go pure mastery gems there and i guess change the enchant on your bracers and gloves to mastery instead of haste 320 mastery on the weapon will also be good i guess.

[Woozy]

pixcals wrote:

phil777 wrote: I do have reforgeLite. o.O Here's my character: https://armory.freakz.ro/character/genesis/felbeard And overlook the volatile talisman of the shado-pan, I'm trying to get it replaced with Meg's Hydra Breath. >.> with the gear you have you should be hit capped so actually respecting a +60 hit bonus on ur neck piece is not really worth it same goes for +60 intellect go pure mastery gems there and i guess change the enchant on your bracers and gloves to mastery instead of haste 320 mastery on the weapon will also be good i guess.

320 MASTERY GEMS SEMPAI, STACK IT!

[phil777]

Haven't you looked at my armory? Shouldn't it tell you I'm currently doing that? o.O

Posturi unite automat, 18-02-2016, 19:54:29

Don't I need a minimal amount of haste though? >.> like 9.7k or so?

[Magnus06]

Call this sheet your new god : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-aEX1JvdwjKJJmh0o0lWwvY5Sozvns2U77bfbFUtdDg/edit

To sum up :

9k7 haste to gain 4 extra tick on Agony, 2021 haste on destruction to gain one extra tick on Immolate. There's however some haste oriented destro build but that's for late SoO. :o

[pixcals]

phil777 wrote:

Haven't you looked at my armory? Shouldn't it tell you I'm currently doing that? o.O Posturi unite automat, 18-02-2016, 19:54:29 Don't I need a minimal amount of haste though? >.> like 9.7k or so?

gaining an extra tick of immolate is clearly a waste just stack mastery and u will do better.

[phil777]

I thought haste affected cast speed and mana regeneration as well... As for ticks, isn't RoF considered a periodic effect in Destro spec?

[pixcals]

haste does effect cast speed but idk why you would look for mana regen at all as destro also ur mastery directly increases all the damage u deal with immolate incenerate and conflag.
So stacking mastery is much more viable compared to going for a haste breakpoint

https://youtube.com/watch?v=t6r4UlJepwI:



https://youtube.com/watch?v=vw0l44yAB2w:



hope these videos help you with your doubts about haste vs mastery

[Magnus06]

There is something i don't understand here and my thinking maybe be wrong so i'll expose it.

Even best in slots gear have haste rating on them so you will never have 0 haste rating, au contraire ! You will most likely want to invest a little in haste or so because your unreforged haste will be near that cap so you don't get stuck with that waste of haste and still get that extra tick to compensate. Finally, 2021 haste is equal to 3,3% crit chance if that haste were crit rating instead or 3,3% dmg increase for Incinerate, Fel flame, Imo and Conf and 10% dmg increase for CB. In a perfect world where you could reinvest 100% of that 2021 haste into mastery or crit (if that piece already has mastery) then i would say yes everyday but this is not a perfect world.

The more excellent your gear is, the easier it'll get to that haste cap. The more excellent your gear is, the more amount of haste each concerned pieces will have.

I've run some checks with my own lock : unreforged and without any haste gems, i have 2050 haste rating. Knowing that reforging allows a 40% stats conversion, it would leave with ~1600haste with an increase of ~2% dmg of CB and less than 1% for Inci/FF/Conf/Imo.

[senkochan]

I can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong, if someone can enlighten me, please.
I have a Destro ilvl 514 and my burst barely reaches 100k and then the dps goes down to 80k. I have all the items with Mastery gems (84% Mastery and reforged with the Addon), I have enchants on everything, I tried 4 different rotations (now I use Immolate, Conflagrate, Chaos Bolt then spam Incinerate and repeat). I can't seem to deal more than 90k constantly (buffed maybe 105k).

The question I have is, am I doing something wrong? My dps has barely raised from 60k to 80k in 50 ilvl and everyone I talked to told me my dps is unsually low... Any ideas?

[Daeron]

I suggest you to pick up the following talents: Archimonde's Darkness and Grimoire of Sacrifice.

[Seyrox]

Supremacy>Sacrifice till higher ilvls like ~540. This is because of low mastery and intellect meaning less damage on incinerate, immolate, conflagrate, shadowburn and chaos bolt.

[Magnus06]

My lock is 529 sitting with 18k intel, 2k haste, 16k mastery and 7k crit (unbuffed) but i already feel like sacrifice is better, but that's because i mainly play with Sacrificial pact so its effect is mediocre if i go supremacy.

[senkochan]

I deal less damage with Sacrifice than with Supremacy (20k less) but even so buffed I rarely reach 110 dps and usually only during bursts...

[Seyrox]

senkochan wrote:

I deal less damage with Sacrifice than with Supremacy (20k less) but even so buffed I rarely reach 110 dps and usually only during bursts...

Well you should see this guide.It has everything you need to know about destruction, and if you want to learn more i suggest looking at some youtube videos of sparkuggz/evrelia/ignocia, all 3 of them were good warlock on retail. After seeing your armory i suggest you need to learn how to gem properly, yes mastery is better than intellect when it comes to gems but it's not worth losing 120 bonus intellect or 180, also uneering vision of Lei Shen got nerfed really hard for us so you should switch it wish a Cha'ye or Breath asap.

[Seyrox]

What are your thoughts about tier 16 and how do you think it will affect the warlock's dps?

[pixcals]

T16 2p will prove to be amazing for Demo locks since the 20% damage increase from soul fire will be awsome. Destruction will also do well generally (when have they done bad since the bloody start), wouldnt really comment on affliction. 4p is quite godlike for all 3 specs IMO. Everything will fit right in for warlock this patch if any1 did struggle in the previous tiers. Also since many of the SoO encounters has lots of adds Destro and Demo will pull quite ahead of affliction except protectors or maybe even dark shaman if we keep both of em outside.
cheers.

[Seyrox]

pixcals wrote:

T16 2p will prove to be amazing for Demo locks since the 20% damage increase from soul fire will be awsome. Destruction will also do well generally (when have they done bad since the bloody start), wouldnt really comment on affliction. 4p is quite godlike for all 3 specs IMO. Everything will fit right in for warlock this patch if any1 did struggle in the previous tiers. Also since many of the SoO encounters has lots of adds Destro and Demo will pull quite ahead of affliction except protectors or maybe even dark shaman if we keep both of em outside. cheers.

I feel like 2p for Demo will be Rng, either if you get lucky with molten core procs in the opener or get the buff. 4p for Affliction is really trash in my opinion, i would rather stack mastery over those worthless stats because in order to proc it you need to let it fall off and i don't really like that. I feel like Affliction will dominate this patch, some encounters that will prove destro/demo is superior is Siegecrafter and maybe Galakras.

[pixcals]

Destruction has a good chance of doing so many chaos bolts in a single fight just caz increased crit generates 2 ember bits filling up embers quickly but yea apart from the 4p affli should do good .

[bigdaddybamm]

I have always stuck mainly with pve, in raids I feel like I did very well. Since starting pvp, and gearing as fast as I can, I have proven myself to really suck at it. I am currently at 523 and have been told by almost everyone to stay out of 3x3 (I only did for the Easter event). What pointers can anyone give me to better my destro pvp game... I really don't want to switch specs.