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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 09-12-2015, 12:20:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Destruction Warlock Discussion


    Here you can talk about anything related to Destruction Warlock in patch 5.4.8.
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Ayen

[Mentally Stable]

Post Posted: 11-12-2015, 00:10:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Currently, destro is the "god spec" for warlocks since we don't have enough haste for affliction to be better 99% of the time, but that's about to change in ToT once we get to our haste breakpoints easier...
Still with enough mastery and crit stacking... 2 mil. chaos bolts in burst -
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 11-12-2015, 00:47:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yea, I love destruction more than any specialisation but I will try Affliction too @ ToT.

You can go affliction at this moment too but you need BiS gear to achive the haste required for a good dps.
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pixcals

[Warlolololock]

Post Posted: 11-12-2015, 06:42:54 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

well yea i recently switched to the haste afflicition and it feels god like with amazing gear.
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 16-12-2015, 09:14:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

C'mon guys, don't be shy! Post anything about warlock destruction here! I'll try to answer at any question
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lockherx

[Gladiator]

Post Posted: 16-12-2015, 09:51:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Woozy wrote:
C'mon guys, don't be shy! Post anything about warlock destruction here! I'll try to answer at any question


Why is your DPS so high? Are you using some kind of...cheats ? Which guide should I read, in order to play this spec well ?
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 16-12-2015, 11:53:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Haha, my brother Lockher! Nice to see you here. I can't say my DPS is high, let's just say it's above average - I know you're trolling, but reading just a guide is not enough and you know that, you must exercise in order to obtain a full potential of your class / specialisation.


Kind regards,
Woozy.
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oMSQo

[Freakazoid]

Post Posted: 22-12-2015, 10:26:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Woozy got any good WA strings?
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pixcals

[Warlolololock]

Post Posted: 22-12-2015, 13:44:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/forums/topic/132549-destruction-warlock-54-weakauras/

Here u go a good set of strings for all 3 specs of warlock for the entire 5.4 expansion
hope this helps.. -
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 22-12-2015, 23:15:29 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I don't use WA, i don't find it necessary.

You can find some strings here

I prefer to remain classic if you know what I mean :3
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Aliostar

[Mentally Stable]

Post Posted: 03-01-2016, 04:30:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ok but in the end, what spec is better for lock from first to third is it Destruction>Affliction>Demonology?
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pixcals

[Warlolololock]

Post Posted: 03-01-2016, 06:06:10 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

it depends on what fight u are doing...also the what stats your gear has like ToT gear is not really destruction viable but can be done ultimately its ur choice.
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oMSQo

[Freakazoid]

Post Posted: 04-01-2016, 23:45:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

What should i play at Councils? Affliction for the Metters on Destro for the burst?
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 05-01-2016, 00:22:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hi,

If you have a decent gear, I recommend you Affliction. It's more viable and it does a lot of damage. The burst doesn't matter. You should help your raid mates not focus on recount. Affliction has a good damage, and you do this damage overall, not in the begining of the fight.

Overall, you should use Affliction for this encounter.

Respect,
Woozy.
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Seyrox
[Banned user]


Banned
Post Posted: 06-01-2016, 17:57:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Affli has the highest burst atm if you know how to snapshot sure some classes are better 10 seconds in the encounter but after that affliction should run over them with same gear and not bis etc
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Magnus06

[Err505 Baguette Way]

Post Posted: 14-01-2016, 00:09:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hi,

I was wondering if http://www.wowhead.com/item=95814 is good on my Destrolock.

Thing is :
-I don't want to burn 3 stack of backdraft while tracking the proc to get a monstrous CB.
-Crit snapshot thingy (need détails on that) doens't seem to work, if i get it, if i use Immolate during the proc the DOT will have 100% crit ticks until it expires or is refreshed without the trinket proc.
-Current trinket are : Jade Magistrate figure equipped and Relic of Yu lon in bag.

This lock is an alt, i don't really plan on building another gear to spec Affliction.
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Nytrox

[bored]

Post Posted: 14-01-2016, 02:19:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

That trinket is viable just on affliction and demo,but at the moment the crit snapshot works just for chaos bolt.Breath of the hydra and wushoolay are better.
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Legionkiller

[Mentally Stable]

Post Posted: 16-01-2016, 18:30:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ZkDBRm1qFQ:



Enjoy!!
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 17-01-2016, 00:47:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yea, good movie - I would like to see those "combos" on freakz bgs -
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Legionkiller

[Mentally Stable]

Post Posted: 17-01-2016, 07:41:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Woozy wrote:
Yea, good movie - I would like to see those "combos" on freakz bgs -


We could do it -
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pixcals

[Warlolololock]

Post Posted: 17-01-2016, 08:07:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

that would be nice but how do u get 10 locks to actually end up in the same BG?
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 17-01-2016, 13:34:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I will try this - I think its gonna be fun!
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Legionkiller

[Mentally Stable]

Post Posted: 17-01-2016, 14:21:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Woozy wrote:
I will try this - I think its gonna be fun!

/w me ingame if you do. I'm up for it!
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phil777

[Creep]

Post Posted: 15-02-2016, 00:56:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I'd like to ask if 80-83k dps as a destro warlock with 521 ilevel is normal? I can't seem to get any higher, I do have wushoolay's trinky, which is BiS, and I might need to replace the shado-pan trinky, which is bad for destro. My dps is somehow the same on affliction. Any serious ideas?
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Ashcool

[Licensed to kill]

Post Posted: 15-02-2016, 09:24:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Hey, phil777!
You are deffinetly doing something wrong when it comes to your rotation. There is no way you keep such a low stable dps as both destro/affliction.
Please refer to some of our guides/tutorials and see whats wrong. I personally never have issues to uphold a 140k+ DPS with an ilvl of ~525.
PS: Wushoolay's deffinetly not BiS. Cha-Ye & Breath of the Hydra are by far the best trinkets for Destro. Both Wusho & Lei-Shen's trink needs to be snapshotted, allowing you to cast 1-2 extremely overpowered chaosbolts, while I get the chance to cast 4-5 CBs under the affect of Breath + Cha-Ye. Mix that with Dark Soul > profit.

Cheers, Ash.
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Seyrox
[Banned user]


Banned
Post Posted: 15-02-2016, 10:39:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Actually wushoolay is better tahn cha ye . In the opener you get off 2 chaos bolts and i usually get them at 8-9 stacks of wushoolay. Si Breath and wushoolay i consider them bis since lei shen trinket was nerfed heavily vs warlocks.
About your dps go watch a destruction guide from Sparkuggz, he has on his channel a destruction warlock guide for 5.3 but its helpful , a guide how to do a good opener and destruction workshop.
Also /w Seyrox when you are online i will see what i can do to help you.
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phil777

[Creep]

Post Posted: 15-02-2016, 19:21:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ashcool wrote:
Hey, phil777!
You are deffinetly doing something wrong when it comes to your rotation. There is no way you keep such a low stable dps as both destro/affliction.
Please refer to some of our guides/tutorials and see whats wrong. I personally never have issues to uphold a 140k+ DPS with an ilvl of ~525.
PS: Wushoolay's deffinetly not BiS. Cha-Ye & Breath of the Hydra are by far the best trinkets for Destro. Both Wusho & Lei-Shen's trink needs to be snapshotted, allowing you to cast 1-2 extremely overpowered chaosbolts, while I get the chance to cast 4-5 CBs under the affect of Breath + Cha-Ye. Mix that with Dark Soul > profit.

Cheers, Ash.


Heh, how can I be wrong when it comes to Destro rotation? o.O I just apply curse of elements if no one else can do it, pop dark soul, the two charges of conflag, immolate, and spam incinerate until I have 3.5 emberbits and then Chaos bolt. =/ I'll also cast it earlier if I get a Wush trinket proc. This is single target rotation I'm talking about, with only my own buffs, dark intent, mastery food buff and grimoire of sacrifice buff. o.O

Posturi unite automat, 15-02-2016, 18:58:41

Oh, and unlike more "motivated" players, I don't have the legendary meta gem. Or any other donor gear. Or even any set piece. -.- Is there any trinket I could use to replace the shado-pan assault one in the meantime that's "easily" accessible? =/

Posturi unite automat, 15-02-2016, 19:21:38

Also, Sparkuggz says to use RoF in your single-target rotation, is this really worth it since we're working with 5.4 formulas? =/
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Seyrox
[Banned user]


Banned
Post Posted: 15-02-2016, 19:47:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Only in the opener due to heavy haste(Bloodlust/metagem/berserking) and on 3 or more targets maintained.
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phil777

[Creep]

Post Posted: 16-02-2016, 00:10:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I think I mentionned this, but I don't have the legendary meta gem. I'm not a donator. >.>
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pixcals

[Warlolololock]

Post Posted: 16-02-2016, 12:51:07 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

even if u arent a donor you can pull over 140-170k dps on single target also get reforgelite and maybe letting an addon calculate for reforges might help you.
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 16-02-2016, 15:36:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Reforge lite doesn't work very well. It reforges over 15% hit then it focuses on haste/crit evenif you are reforgin for destro.
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Legionkiller

[Mentally Stable]

Post Posted: 16-02-2016, 15:48:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Woozy wrote:
Reforge lite doesn't work very well. It reforges over 15% hit then it focuses on haste/crit evenif you are reforgin for destro.


I just used it for pvp, from nowhere it got me 300 more mastery so for me it's working more than ok :d. Dunno about pve.
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Magnus06

[Err505 Baguette Way]

Post Posted: 16-02-2016, 16:21:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Woozy wrote:
Reforge lite doesn't work very well. It reforges over 15% hit then it focuses on haste/crit evenif you are reforgin for destro.


It works perfectly for both my pally and lock, are you sure you have the 1.38 version ?

Just tested, came to this :

Spoiler:
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pixcals

[Warlolololock]

Post Posted: 16-02-2016, 17:12:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Woozy wrote:
Reforge lite doesn't work very well. It reforges over 15% hit then it focuses on haste/crit evenif you are reforgin for destro.

It works fine and technically has no problem focusing on mastery if it is the stat prio u are setting.
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Woozy

[Plebs God.]

Post Posted: 16-02-2016, 17:48:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Last time i used that addon, my stats were screwed up.. I ussualy make reforges and calculation on a sheet of paper, on my desk -
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