[DUPLICATE] [Druid][Feral] Shred damage vs PvP

Quicksand · Posted: 09-07-2017, 23:24:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

There is a specific dummy both on retail and on freakz, called PvP Training Dummy (look it up on wowhead / our site). If you attack that dummy, your honor talents and pvp templates activate (both on retail and on freakz) for 2 minutes. if you attack any other dummy, this does not work

Teni · Posted: 09-07-2017, 23:27:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quicksand wrote:

There is a specific dummy both on retail and on freakz, called PvP Training Dummy (look it up on wowhead / our site). If you attack that dummy, your honor talents and pvp templates activate (both on retail and on freakz) for 2 minutes. if you attack any other dummy, this does not work

I have this with shred dmg. Got few screenshots saved from 7.1.5 , from retail, just in case spells are bugged here, but when i try to do it on freakz im getting the pvp buff, and there i dont have it. So it's hard for me to check the difference.

Quicksand · Posted: 09-07-2017, 23:29:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Wait, why don't you have templates activated there? It instantly activates for me on retail as well

Teni · Posted: 09-07-2017, 23:31:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Quicksand wrote:

Wait, why don't you have templates activated there? It instantly activates for me on retail as well

No idea man, that's why i was really confused at the start.

Maybe you can make a dummy , with the armor of that one and to not give us the pvp buff and after that we can test shred damage.

Tianton · Posted: 10-07-2017, 22:01:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Im pretty sure that incarn Shred hits too much. U can even crit for like 300k +, and Bite 5 combo bloodtaloon and pool'ed energry is like 170-200k.

westernil · Posted: 12-07-2017, 21:38:45 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Dont know what's wrong with you guys, but feral is ok how it is right now. It is already the bottom in top dps, it has never been such in a bad state like it is right now. I barely find it playable but because i love feral, i m trying to keep up with others. Anyway i played feral on retail, patch 7.1.5 the current one, and i see no difference in terms of dmg. IT is playable even if no one wants you in a group/raid

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Quicksand · Posted: 13-07-2017, 01:42:50 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@westernil yes ferals are in a pretty bad situation in terms of PvE, but this topic is solely to discuss damage of Shred in PvP

based on your answer I am not really sure you are talking about PvE or PvP situations

Magicqtz · Posted: 16-07-2017, 17:07:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

westernil wrote:

Dont know what's wrong with you guys, but feral is ok how it is right now. It is already the bottom in top dps, it has never been such in a bad state like it is right now. I barely find it playable but because i love feral, i m trying to keep up with others. Anyway i played feral on retail, patch 7.1.5 the current one, and i see no difference in terms of dmg. IT is playable even if no one wants you in a group/raid

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You played PvP?

And if you have been played on retail you shoulded known that pvp legion is different of pve legion.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

Teni · Posted: 16-07-2017, 20:39:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

There might be a fix for shred in pvp, to do less damage maybe , idk, because on pve is doing 200k+ crits with full cdz. Which is terrible... Maybe a hotfix ?

raven3 · Posted: 16-07-2017, 21:30:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Teni wrote:

There might be a fix for shred in pvp, to do less damage maybe , idk, because on pve is doing 200k+ crits with full cdz. Which is terrible... Maybe a hotfix ?

hmm.. this is interesting..

Might be nothing but I noticed something regarding feral damage.... because on the ptr I did those countless dmg tests
Right now the maximum dmg from shred that I got was ~400k crit.. but on ptr I was being hit for 500k crit shreds on a regular basis (in full burst of course)
The only difference between now and the ptr is that now we can only access 2 relics instead of 3.
This could also could explain why teni in his teste did ~85k noncrit shred damage on leather with bleeds up.. while on the ptr I was doing ~110k on leather with bleeds up
So could it be possible that relics provide in pvp too much of a bust to autoattack damage? (Shred's formula is a % of autoattack damage)

Relaxxeu · Posted: 17-07-2017, 00:29:40 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

In terms of PvE Feral can NOT keep up with other classes, cant say by far, buy a decently geared feral (850ish), what i have noticed is that rake intends to do more dmg than a 5combo rip

Garn · Posted: 17-07-2017, 12:11:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Then try to figure it out whats the problem and post it the right section, I do feel there is something wrong since im doing more dmg in pve with Guardian then with Feral.

Posting a new BUG REPORT has to follow the template you get when opening a new topic or it can be instantly rejected.

Freakz Lich King 25H

Tianton · Posted: 17-07-2017, 15:20:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Just tested today. My friend wihout a single relic tested his shred's (wihout traits). His max shred was like 180k (max crit), but mine with 2 relics are like 200-330k. So u might be right about that relics thingy.

westernil · Posted: 17-07-2017, 18:37:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Magicqtz wrote:

westernil wrote:

Dont know what's wrong with you guys, but feral is ok how it is right now. It is already the bottom in top dps, it has never been such in a bad state like it is right now. I barely find it playable but because i love feral, i m trying to keep up with others. Anyway i played feral on retail, patch 7.1.5 the current one, and i see no difference in terms of dmg. IT is playable even if no one wants you in a group/raid

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You played PvP?

And if you have been played on retail you shoulded known that pvp legion is different of pve legion.

Got me wrong, of course i know the difference about pve/pvp. In pve is shit, right, but in pvp z, these numbers are normal for shred. You should have tested shred in 7.1.5 on blizz and you could have seen is no difference abut shred dmg in pvp Thinking

. This topic is somethig like "let's *** up feral" because 5 players say so, what about the other players?

Forage · Posted: 19-07-2017, 20:11:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

westernil wrote:

Magicqtz wrote:

westernil wrote:

Dont know what's wrong with you guys, but feral is ok how it is right now. It is already the bottom in top dps, it has never been such in a bad state like it is right now. I barely find it playable but because i love feral, i m trying to keep up with others. Anyway i played feral on retail, patch 7.1.5 the current one, and i see no difference in terms of dmg. IT is playable even if no one wants you in a group/raid

.

You played PvP?

And if you have been played on retail you shoulded known that pvp legion is different of pve legion.

Got me wrong, of course i know the difference about pve/pvp. In pve is shit, right, but in pvp z, these numbers are normal for shred. You should have tested shred in 7.1.5 on blizz and you could have seen is no difference abut shred dmg in pvp Thinking

. This topic is somethig like "let's *** up feral" because 5 players say so, what about the other players?

You can see the shred's damage on blizzard in 7.1.5 in videos lol, and there it crits for 150k in burst, where on freakz it crits for 300k+ in burst... and on retail in 7.1.5 people had way better gear and 3rd relic slot, so if we had theese on freakz, then what? we get 400k crits with shred in arenas? this post is not "let's *** up feral"