[DUPLICATE] [Druid][Feral] Shred damage vs PvP

[Tianton]

U are not right about 150k shred crit in burst in retail. Just check yt carefully and u will see 290k shred's in retail too But ye, sometimes it goes even for 350k crits here.

[Magicqtz]

Tianton wrote:

U are not right about 150k shred crit in burst in retail. Just check yt carefully and u will see 290k shred's in retail too But ye, sometimes it goes even for 350k crits here.

Check this one, we are playing late 7.1.5 pvp...is not *** 7.2 to do 300k shred. The purpose is to be blizzlike as we can, we don't *** up classes...shitty players.

16 March

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zr6HH2bSiOY:



https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

[Tianton]

Mr @Magicqtz
https://youtube.com/watch?v=njlXTvbWvcQ&t=424:


7:33

http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz

And many times in that topic, i said that shred hits too hard (even 350k~~), but 300k shred was a thing in full burst in retail.

[Magicqtz]

Tianton wrote:

Mr @Magicqtz https://youtube.com/watch?v=njlXTvbWvcQ&t=424: 7:33 http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz And many times in that topic, i said that shred hits too hard (even 350k~~), but 300k shred was a thing in full burst in retail.

You showed a good video, thanks, i watched it all, no shred dmg above 250k.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

[Tianton]

Bro u have imgur linked LOL with 285k
http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz
http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz
http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz

[Magicqtz]

Tianton wrote:

Bro u have imgur linked LOL with 285k http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz

Yea, my bad, it was 285k.

So? the point is not even 300k, and this number is a random one besides of others 10000 shred crits.
He hits 285k shred and after in same instance 190k crit, wierd as ***.
Is the first random crit that high of shred seen by me, most of them are rounded at 200k-240k maximum.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

[Tianton]

Yep and as i said, shred here hits more then in retail. I was looking for it "why it hits too hard", for a week. But cant find it, i did all math its all good. Must be pvp modifer that we are not able to find :/ I found some kind of addon that shows pvp modifers, so maybe someone that can log retail, migth try that?

Edit: I was even checking pvp templates for feral. I Found that they had something around 21k, but in the middle of patch blizzard nerfed agi by 10% or soomething like that. On Freakz we have 19900 with 850 ilvl, so its not that.

Update @ 19-07-2017, 23:50:56

@magicqtz that was bloodtalon shred, after that it was normal shred.
Maybe someone can use that addon in retail, and check that pvp modifer?

https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/pvp-tooltips#t1:other-downloads

[ionci]

Shouldn.t be a difference between nutiplicative damage and additive damage like in diablo 3? I don.t think you should just add 20% of that 30% of what.s left etc.. There should a clear difference between additive damage from the base damage of the spell based on gear, and mutiplicative damage based on modifiers after the aditive is calculated. Some classes deal way low damage or healing and some deal way too high...

[Teni]

Magicqtz wrote:

Tianton wrote: Bro u have imgur linked LOL with 285k http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz Yea, my bad, it was 285k.

That is that 285k with bloodtalons and tiger's fury? Or without?

LE: so that was with bloodtalons and no tiger's fury. That would have been ~330k with tiger's fury.

@ Magicqtz it's everything about buffs, nothing wierd.

@Topic i agree sometimes the damage is too high, but 300k crits are not hard to reach when you pop cdz. People expect to waste their cdz b4 incarn and just heal the incarn damage without anything. You just can't do that. Also dont forget every time you kick your cd on tiger's fury resets, so you have tiger's fury every 15 seconds, which is imo game changing.

[Magicqtz]

Teni wrote:

Magicqtz wrote: Tianton wrote: Bro u have imgur linked LOL with 285k http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz http://imgur.com/a/cXHNz Yea, my bad, it was 285k. That is that 285k with bloodtalons and tiger's fury? Or without? LE: so that was with bloodtalons and no tiger's fury. That would have been ~330k with tiger's fury. @ Magicqtz it's everything about buffs, nothing wierd.

The things are wierd here about of X% of the time that dmg is up.

For example for fullmoon, from 10 fullmoons in arena at 3v3 on blizz, only 2-3 max are between 700k-800k.
On freakz, fullmoon does 1 milion dmg very often or in interval 700k-800k, maybe be the same with shred.


https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/sylvanas/mostfckedup

[Tianton]

@teni that was bloodtalon without tiger fury. So he could do more

[Amnezx]

Tianton wrote:

@teni that was bloodtalon without tiger fury. So he could do more

U don't play tiger fury in PvP

[Teni]

Amnezx wrote:

U don't play tiger fury in PvP

A? That's a spell not a talent. Most important one after incarn. That 285k with tiger's fury would have been 330k.

[Foxed]

incarn replace tiger's fury i think, so you can;t have both

https://www.freakz.ro/forum/achievement-Unique-a176.html

[Teni]

No it doesn't , there are 2 different spells lol.