[DUPLICATE] [Druid][Feral] Shred damage vs PvP

[Forage]

Foxed wrote:

incarn replace tiger's fury i think, so you can;t have both

Incarn replaces Berserk


I forgot to ss the combat log... but I just got crited 3 times for 400k+ shred, the biggest was 445k or so... probably with tiger fury but still... I feel like it hits harder and harder every day lol. Maybe they tried some fixes and now it hits harder.

[chazz100]

I'm pretty sure there's something wrong with shred,as a resto druid with feral affinity I do 130k in pve instance and 90k+ in pvp and sometimes even 110k in pvp don't know how is that even possible,you should look at the numbers of this spell please.

[Garn]

I am pretty new on the subject but something is really odd. At the end of one BG my maximum normal hit was 204k with a 140k average at 20.000 agility.
In PvE I can barely reach 100k normal hit with all my buffs up and 26.000 agility. It might come to other factors but the difference is still huge.


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[Tianton]

Btw noticed today that, if u pick Feral Affinity as Bala, your shred can crit for like 300k in PvP

[Tianton]

@SolastriaN Help with that

[kindzor]

on all the other specs Moonfire hits the same( not really sure about feral) or harder than the balance's(also wrath and possible more), on balance you even have increased damage from the weapon traits

[raven3]

Garn wrote:

I am pretty new on the subject but something is really odd. At the end of one BG my maximum normal hit was 204k with a 140k average at 20.000 agility. In PvE I can barely reach 100k normal hit with all my buffs up and 26.000 agility. It might come to other factors but the difference is still huge.

Yes..
I noticed that it deals more damage in pvp than in pve so I did a test today.

Without templates and with 23600 agility a feral hits me for ~55k noncrit shred
With templates and ~20k agility the same feral hits me for ~80k
http://imgur.com/a/bEShE

So it's 55k vs 80k ...

the pve versin of shred has 3600 more agility to work with so it should deal at least 10% more damage
The versatility is ~ the same at 10%

so the pvp version should deal at most 0.9 X 55 = ~ 50k

[kindzor]

raven3 wrote:

Garn wrote: I am pretty new on the subject but something is really odd. At the end of one BG my maximum normal hit was 204k with a 140k average at 20.000 agility. In PvE I can barely reach 100k normal hit with all my buffs up and 26.000 agility. It might come to other factors but the difference is still huge. Yes.. I noticed that it deals more damage in pvp than in pve so I did a test today. Without templates and with 23600 agility a feral hits me for ~55k noncrit shred With templates and ~20k agility the same feral hits me for ~80k http://imgur.com/a/bEShE So it's 55k vs 80k ... the pve versin of shred has 3600 more agility to work with so it should deal at least 10% more damage The versatility is ~ the same at 10% so the pvp version should deal at most 0.9 X 55 = ~ 50k

I noticed this even on PTR, i posted about it in someone's topic about Feral's damage(cant actually remember where) or i told about it to some helper in game however it remained unsolved

[kindzor]

So, i just watched a video https://youtube.com/watch?v=rddBYPkgrDk:

, start the video at 0.57 secs and you will se the perfect situation Shred with Incarn, Tiger's Fury,and 3 stacks King of the Jungle and he crited for 246k. (no defense up from the druid)

I wanted to see how much i can get so i tried to get the exact burst but without King of the Jungle (because i tested it on the dummy....bla bla bla)

And i managed to get a 481k crit without 12% increase damage from King of the Jungle which would have been over 500k.

http://imgur.com/a/zTLJt
http://imgur.com/a/5YYeL

[nyevid]

WELL... 2000 views on this topic

5 page of replies all claiming that something is indeed WEIRD about it.

can we get an answer?

i actually believe that feral is 'a bit' too strong.

lmao.

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[Tianton]

Idk. I wasted like a few days, to find what's wrong with shred and brutal slash, but nothing. The thing is dmg is only higher. U can easy hit for like 530k incarn shred, or even 680k brutal slash. So i think that minut be something with grad or weapon

[Forage]

Tianton wrote:

Idk. I wasted like a few days, to find what's wrong with shred and brutal slash, but nothing. The thing is dmg is only higher. U can easy hit for like 530k incarn shred, or even 680k brutal slash. So i think that minut be something with grad or weapon

Idk about the weapon dmg... because the dmg is high in pvp. Shred in pve hits like wet noodles. Shred in pvp hits like double the shred in pve.

[Stayfjurt]

pvp modifier might be wrong , or just something , this needs to be deeeply investigated , if anyone think that 500 k shred is normal you are wrong sorry but thats fking unreal. 2v2 bracked is infected by feral/healer or warr/healer coz they are broken. its like 90 % high rated btw. so if u wanna play 2s play warr / feral / healer and u will be 2k ez.

[bioshocks]

Idk about this but can anyone post a screenshot where it shows 500k in a pvp zone ?! cause my feral is geared as *** and as I recall my highiest shred crit with the perfect conditions was around 310-350 and that's on a target that's like 40ilvl below me , if anyone has a screenshot with this 400-500k shred post it at least it we can see what are we dealing with

[kindzor]

this damage was done with PvP template active on a druid in night elf form http://imgur.com/a/v5MQh , just check the combat log