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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 09:15:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: Treant https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=150017 (formula pusa de nytrox)
Bug description: Nu vreau sa dezamagesc fericitii care s-au bucurat de nerf-ul la feral, dar formula e de pe 6.* ...
--- https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=150017 (wowhead link) --- aici aici se vede in changelog ca e de pe 6.0, nu a existat inainte de 6.0.
Pe langa astsa, e formula de "Level: 6" a rake-ului de pe wod (scrie la quick facts). Nu are nici o legatura cu rake-ul de pe treants.
Aici Puteti vedea rake-ul pe care il dau copacii, care se vede ca e exact ca cel al druidului. e link la spel la patch notes 5.4.

Problema la rake-ul copacilor era ca cea de la feral. Isi lua double dip din mastery la 1st hit. De asta se ajungea la 37k dmg.

Oh, si cu noua formula rake-ul copacilor nu mai da crit:




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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 11:38:18 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

@sereth fa post si la asta, ca nu da arcane damage

nici frost



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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 14:39:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

De ce nimeni nu intelege ca feral druid nu trebuie sa fie bun pe 5.4 ? De ce nu intelegei ca mai nou e clasa support ... heal mare cc.. dmg mic. Nu e vorba numai de primul hit.. Si dupa mai primeam 15k+ rake crit.. sau 8k noncrit.. Era FOARTE MULT pentru malev gear.


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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 15:19:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Daca formula era de pe 6.0, nu mai exista in database-ul Freakz. Plus ca formula de pe wowhead e diferita fata de Freakz db, si pentru 6.0.3 (20% fata de 10%) si pentru 6.1 (22,4% fata de 10%).


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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 15:23:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

cronoxx wrote:
De ce nimeni nu intelege ca feral druid nu trebuie sa fie bun pe 5.4 ? De ce nu intelegei ca mai nou e clasa support ... heal mare cc.. dmg mic. Nu e vorba numai de primul hit.. Si dupa mai primeam 15k+ rake crit.. sau 8k noncrit.. Era FOARTE MULT pentru malev gear.


Lasa ma cronoxx ca la noi feral druidul face tunnel pe healer cu un warrior in spate care ii da 3 stunuri , disarm si fear si tot il bate usor ... mi se pare mai mult decat rezonabil damageul care il dau acum copacii.

Acesti trenti pe blizz erau folositi pentru situatii de escape atat defensiv cat si ofensiv ( aici ma refer sa nu fuga un anumit player cu low hp/mana si nu pentru damageul dat de rake ) ... nu au fost niciodata folositi pentru damageul lor ... daca tot spui ca singurul bug era ca isi lua double increase din mastery pe initial tick de ce si-ar lua orice increase din mastery atata timp cat cei de balance si resto nu primesc acest increase ... copacii astia de feral au mai multe frunze sau cum ?



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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 16:26:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Dread are dreptate cu ce spell folosesc treanti. Aici http://www.tukui.org/forums/topic.php?id=29174 omul spune ca rakeu de la treanti e id-ul ala. Daca cauti pe freakz DB acel id e exact spellul dat de dread. Pe de alta parte nu i-am vazut niciodata sa casteze entangling roots si din cate am citit ar trb sa casteze si entangling si rake.
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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 16:43:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Dreadblade wrote:
Daca formula era de pe 6.0, nu mai exista in database-ul Freakz. Plus ca formula de pe wowhead e diferita fata de Freakz db, si pentru 6.0.3 (20% fata de 10%) si pentru 6.1 (22,4% fata de 10%).


De asta in database-ul de la frakz exista multistrike(pasiva de wod). Te rog, taci ca esti pe langa. Iti faci clasa cum vrei ca esti gm, si daca va bate cineva inventati formule.



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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 16:47:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Sereth wrote:
Dreadblade wrote:
Daca formula era de pe 6.0, nu mai exista in database-ul Freakz. Plus ca formula de pe wowhead e diferita fata de Freakz db, si pentru 6.0.3 (20% fata de 10%) si pentru 6.1 (22,4% fata de 10%).


De asta in database-ul de la frakz exista multistrike(pasiva de wod). Te rog, taci ca esti pe langa. Iti faci clasa cum vrei ca esti gm, si daca va bate cineva inventati formule.


https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=102301&&name=haromm-s-talisman
https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=102300&&name=kardris-toxic-totem
https://www.wow-freakz.com/item_finder.php?item=102294&&name=nazgrim-s-burnished-insignia
^Trinkete din MoP, Siege of Orgrimmar.
Your attacks have a X% chance to trigger MULTISTRIKE. Tot eu sunt pe langa?



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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 16:55:35 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://www.wowhead.com/spells?filter=na=rake;cr=21;crs=3;crv=50400
Mai e aici am setat pe:
Added in patch 5.4.0
Name: Rake
Primu e probabil skill la vreun mob si al doilea e exact ala de la Dread. De ce scrie ca e ultimul changelog in 6.0.3 e probabil pt ca nu a fost schimbat, din cauza ca a fost adaugat la finalu expansiuni practic.

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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 17:08:31 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

1. Multistrike a existat incepand cu SoO ( acele 3 trinkete )
2. Multistrike nu e pasiva de WoD e stat obtinut din gear nu doar trinkets ( ca mastery , haste ) ex : frost mage patch 6.0.1 prio era gear cu multistrike
3. Multistrike din WoD face total alte chestii decat in MoP





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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 17:10:20 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Exact ce a spus Myraje.


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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 18:55:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

cronoxx wrote:
De ce nimeni nu intelege ca feral druid nu trebuie sa fie bun pe 5.4 ? De ce nu intelegei ca mai nou e clasa support ... heal mare cc.. dmg mic. Nu e vorba numai de primul hit.. Si dupa mai primeam 15k+ rake crit.. sau 8k noncrit.. Era FOARTE MULT pentru malev gear.


- Clasa de suport feralul... N-avea damage pe 5.4.8 feralul -. N-am cuvinte....


ON: Rakeul de la copaci NU ar trebui sa fie rakeul FERALULUI. Sunt spelluri complet diferite si evident cel al copacului trebuie sa dea damage mai mic decat celalalt.



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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 19:08:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

druidul avea dmg mare in pve, in pvp cam toate clasele erau viabile
on: e normal ca rake de la copaci sa dea mai putin dmg ca rake de la druid, atat timp cat si wrath de la boomkin sa dea mai mult decat wrath-ul copacilor



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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 19:27:30 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

http://imgur.com/qsxKjiJ

Am si eu o intrebare serioasa. Cineva testeaza "fixurile" astea inainte? Uitati-va cat da acum rakeul copacilor PE UN CRITTER din elwynn forest. Pe playeri da 1.2k (lolwhat?)!!!!!!!!! Hai sa ne uitam putin la cum dadea pe blizz:

1) Blizzard https://youtube.com/watch?v=XIkXWYaHwEI:

(am gasit si filmulete in care dau MULT mai mult, dar nu au combat log ca sa fie foarte clar)
2) Freakz http://imgur.com/5FcgNUf (fara procuri de orice fel)
http://imgur.com/K6Fc467 (cu toate procurile pe care le pot face eu)

!Nota: Pe freakz avem resilience MULT MAI MIC.!

Also, alta aberatie cat casa de mare:

1) Direct damage: http://imgur.com/5FcgNUf
2) Bleed (overtime) damage: http://imgur.com/FogJOqf

Astea doua ar trebui sa fie identice! Initial damage ar trebui sa fie EXACT ca si damage overtime pentru ca INITIAL DAMAGE ESTE DE FAPT UN TICK!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5y5WX7LwWhE:



Initial damage pe rake = dot damage @rake

Nu am timp sa fac reporturile astea, dar e deja penibil cum se raporteaza. Sper sa dea mai mult decat dadeam eu damage acum 9 ani pe 2.4.3 (cum de altfel ar fi si normal). Last reply.





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Post Posted: 24-09-2015, 19:32:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

intrebare cat rezil avea acel player din video si cat pvp power avea acel druid


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