[Death Knight][PvE] Ebon Plaguebringer

[Sunblade]

Wowhead/WoW Freakz Link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=51160&&name=ebon-plaguebringer https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=1490&&name=curse-of-the-elements https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=58410&&name=master-poisoner
Descrierea bugului / Bug description: Same as https://forum.wow-freakz.com/Death-Knight-PvE-Frost-Fever-t316237.html. Basically when a Warlock applies Curse of Elements it overwrites Ebon Plaguebringer because of the "all magic damage taken by an additional 8%." part. Again happens only in Dragon Soul, it's fine on dummy and everywhere else apparently.
Not tested yet but Rogues' Master Poisoner also probably overwrites it, https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=93068&&name=master-poisoner
Dovada / Proof: -

[nero]

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48506&&name=earth-and-moon

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[ryangg]

Nextflame sorry to barge in ,but is it normal that your own debuff to be replaced by someones else debuff ? if it is,the target still takes 8% more magic damage from you even thought you dont have your own debuff but someone else has the same that increase his magic damage?

[UlquiorraSchiffer]

The 8% debuff is the same 'this true but only we dks have a second effect on it: the 30% disease dmg incresed while 'tis up on the target so if the debuff goes we lose dps but if for example earth and moon is replaced by ebon the druid doesn't lose a thing same goes for rogue and wlock(bosses in cata don't have spell resists) so yea ebon SHOULD have a bigger priority


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[ryangg]

Also scarlet fever removes rogues combat debuff (for rogues that's one huge dps loss)

[Gudbror]

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1622864228

Quote from "Jessicka" (2nd Reply):

"I think you're missunderstanding how it works. All those debuffs will still be applied as their secondary effects don't match, but their primary effect (8% Magic Damage) will only function from one of them. I.e. CoE will apply 8% Magic and Reduce Resistances, but Ebon Plague will only apply the 'Own Diseases' aspect of the debuff."

Although, i don't think any of those debuffs should stack, but their secondary effects should indeed work.

For example if a dk uses Ebon plaguebringer and a warlock uses CoE to the same mob, it shouldn't increase spell damage taken by 16%, it should stay at 8%, however the dk should still get 30% damage increase from diseases.

At least that's how it should be according to that battle net forum post.

You can also see how buff and debuff stack on retail:
http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/5640524782.htm

[tudor1297]

that's how all buffs and debuffs should work

they shouldn't just replace each other, they should all be applied, with the condition gudbror mentioned, that the same effect shouldn't stack twice.



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[Snoppy]

I can confirm this. As far as i know and saw on retail, you can see on a target @ raids/bgs/world the debuffs with the same effect, they don't stack but they don't dissapear when two different classes got almost the same effect when using a spell, so they can take the advantage from that ability.


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[ryangg]

Hope this will be fixed soon this is will be one big fix for those who do PVE

[Sunblade]

Nexflame wrote:

Proof that Ebon Plaguebringer should not be overwritten? What should happen? Ebon Plaguebringer should have a higher priority when similar effects stacks?

It doesn't have to be overwritten. It doesn't need to have a higher priority either. All debuffs like this one should be on the boss, so each class can benefit from their own debuff(DKs get 30% increase on dots, thus on Scourge Strike; Boomkins get 2% spell damage increase, etc.)

Debuffs that overwrite Ebon Plaguebringer are: Earth and Moon talent @ Balance Druid; Lightning Breath @ Wind Serpent, hunter pet; Warlock's Curse of the Elements

[Needlegunxz]

Confirmed/as far as i remember this bug haz been fixed like a year ago,but it seems that ebon plaguebringer is broken again.can we see some actual work on crucial bugs like this one?