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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 12:26:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Followup to: https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-5973097.html

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=192660&&&&name=poison-bomb

Bug description:

Trello report has indeed been worded correctly.

However, the dev behind the fix mostly focused on wording of the actual report of Healzbot since its been fixed precisely according to players description and not Bow's.

Mods like Cheewy or Stormbreaker actually point out mistakes made by player in their reports and only then confirming them. And if you point out if the report missed something they are always happy to help.

Doesn't freakz have a people who actually test fixes on test realm before their actual release to felsong? If not I'd be happy to help

Proof on freakz:

On this GIF you can clearly see this druid dropping from 75% -> 67% HP while he is in blind

https://imgur.com/a/ky0qhbk



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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 13:57:33 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

But this poison bomb is proced on the target that is being cced, are you sure its same thing? It shouldnt deal damage to cced target next to the target poison bomb was proced on, that's for sure.


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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 14:05:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

djordjebre96 wrote:
But this poison bomb is proced on the target that is being cced, are you sure its same thing? It shouldnt deal damage to cced target next to the target poison bomb was proced on, that's for sure.


It is AoE attack that deals damage within 6 yard radius to all enemies. That's all to it. It has no separate effects to the enemy you are targeting or the enemy that stands nearby. So yes.

If you have any screens or videos of players in PvP dropping their HP bar gradually from AoE attack in poly, paralysis, blind or repentance in new WoW expansions (MoP+) please do share.



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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 15:08:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Similar bug was with polymorph. Instead of breaking on 1 dmg it breaks on 100,000 dmg. Haven't checked since it got last confirmed but on retail all these CCs that have note WILL BREAK ON DAMAGE always break on 1 dmg.


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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 15:14:00 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

telesto wrote:
djordjebre96 wrote:
But this poison bomb is proced on the target that is being cced, are you sure its same thing? It shouldnt deal damage to cced target next to the target poison bomb was proced on, that's for sure.


It is AoE attack that deals damage within 6 yard radius to all enemies. That's all to it. It has no separate effects to the enemy you are targeting or the enemy that stands nearby. So yes.

If you have any screens or videos of players in PvP dropping their HP bar gradually from AoE attack in poly, paralysis, blind or repentance in new WoW expansions (MoP+) please do share.


Yes but that's different, if cc has already been on target and then poison bomb procs, it shouldnt break cc. But if you proc bomb and then cc I think it should. Correct me if Im wrong



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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 15:19:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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djordjebre96 wrote:
But this poison bomb is proced on the target that is being cced, are you sure its same thing? It shouldnt deal damage to cced target next to the target poison bomb was proced on, that's for sure.


It is AoE attack that deals damage within 6 yard radius to all enemies. That's all to it. It has no separate effects to the enemy you are targeting or the enemy that stands nearby. So yes.

If you have any screens or videos of players in PvP dropping their HP bar gradually from AoE attack in poly, paralysis, blind or repentance in new WoW expansions (MoP+) please do share.


Yes but that's different, if cc has already been on target and then poison bomb procs, it shouldnt break cc. But if you proc bomb and then cc I think it should. Correct me if Im wrong


Can I please ask you what makes you think that way? What pushed you to believe that you should be damaged in CC that breaks on damage? What other example can you provide that works exactly like this?

Cuz I can provide you 10 of examples when similar CC should indeed break on dmg. Can you keep up?

Reporting isn't for thinkers. But for people who actually provide evidence.



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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 15:29:22 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Then provide evidence of procing poison bomb and blinding target in it. Im not saying it should deal dmg but not break, im saying it should break.



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djordjebre96 wrote:
Then provide evidence of procing poison bomb and blinding target in it. Im not saying it should deal dmg but not break, im saying it should break.


Again you are focused on target. It is an AOE attack. It is on ground. You have no control over it. It is not a direct dot on player.

Do you know what AoE radius attack is?



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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 15:32:25 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Its proced by direct ability on a player, its not aoe like death and decay from dk.


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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 15:35:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

It doesn't matter how it procced. It has a mechanic of an AoE attack just like decay from dk.



You see 6 yard radius?

Once it is on ground it has same effect in 6 yard radius. No matter if it is a target or not.



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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 15:37:01 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I know what you mean, Im rogue main I know whats poison bomb im just questioning if your test is valid. If it does damage to other target in cc then its bugged for sure.
Altho you are probably right, it would make sense, but situations are rare where you would blind target after procing poison bomb anyway even if I was right.





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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 17:59:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

The very first report by Healzbot wasn't based on anything and it got fixed based on pure speculation. This dude atleast trying to provide some kind of evidence that makese sense. I never seen anything dying in blind since 2010. So if this going to be rejected you may as well revert any of the fixes done to this spell because healzbot never provided any.
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Post Posted: 08-06-2020, 18:28:19 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Ill explain once more since you do not understand. This obviously IS bug. But there are two possibilities, either it should deal damage and break (since blind is used after bomb proced and on target it was proced on), or it shouldnt deal damage at all.
And also there is another question, what happens if if target trinkets? Does it start dealing damage again?





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Post Posted: 09-06-2020, 17:21:51 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

If a target is CCed (blind, poly) and poison bomb procs and the target sits inside poison bomb, they should not take damage and they should not get flagged for combat because of it.

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