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[Shaman][Enhancement] Stormbringer proc (Proc sequence) Legion bug

 
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florinflo99

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Post Posted: 15-09-2021, 23:20:11 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=201845&&name=stormbringer
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Bug description: Stormbringer proc having half procs than it should have, the problem apeared after the legion "fix" and it still persist on live server, from what i remember the problem was called "proc sequence" and it disapear from trello in the end of legion after 6 months since confirm.
Proof: Comparing retail logs with freakz logs the diference of procs is huge, for this comparison i used logs from similar geared shamans with 440ilvl vs 448ilvl freakz) and similar fight lenght


Stormstrike affect Lightning Shield, Flametongue, Frostbrand and Windfury procs, the most negative impact is on lighning shield reducing the uptime and damage dealt by ~50%.




1. Abyssal Commander Sivara Heroic

Freakz log: 2:18 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t2BPJA7Q9pf4gKy8#fight=4&&type=damage-done&&source=2

38 Stormstrike 11 Windstrike - 22 Stormbringer proc

Retail log: 2:13 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hTkfjQCa7GKwbNRY#fight=1&&type=damage-done&&source=2

65 Stormstrike 12 Windstrike - 57 Stormbringer proc



2. Orgozoa Heroic

Freakz log: 3:18 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t2BPJA7Q9pf4gKy8#fight=24&&type=damage-done&&source=2

56 Stormstrike 18 Windstrike - 38 Stormbringer proc

Retail log: 3:27 439iLvl https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LAWxjgd6fMXTzpv1#fight=26&&type=damage-done&&source=48

77Stormstrike 23 Windstrike - 70 Stormbringer proc
Retail log 2 : 3:21 439iLvl https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Kk7PxzympBQFAHaW#fight=7&&type=damage-done&&source=13

79 Stormstrike 22 Windstrike - 67 Stormbringer



3. Lady Ashvane
Freakz log: 1:53 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t2BPJA7Q9pf4gKy8#fight=21&&type=damage-done&&source=2

24 Stormstrike 12 Windstrike - 16 Stormbringer proc

Retail log: 1:53 440iLvl https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gqcBG6yt3XRYpQ2v#fight=16&&type=damage-done&&source=14

35 Stormstrike 12 Windstrike - 24 Stormbringer proc

Retail log 2 1:55 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8ZRwtTz69x3D1GMA#fight=50&&type=damage-done&&source=898

52 Stormstrike 13 Windstrike - 41 Stormbringer proc



4Queen`s court

Freakz log: 3:51 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t2BPJA7Q9pf4gKy8#fight=28&&type=damage-done&&source=2

60 Stormstrike 24 Windstrike - 39 Stormbringer proc

Retail log: 3:45 441iLvl https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TAYrnV8tcv2DGmZj#fight=11&&type=damage-done&&source=78

92 Stormstrike 24 Windstrike - 88 Stormbringer proc



5. Za`qul

Freakz log: 3:14 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t2BPJA7Q9pf4gKy8#fight=32&&type=damage-done&&source=2

47 Stormstrike 14 Windstrike - 23 Stormbringer proc

Retail log: 3:08 442iLvl https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/X7YWAf96QnDzjpyF#fight=19&&type=damage-done&&source=23

64 Stormstrike 14 Windstrike - 51 Stormbringer proc




6.Queen Azshara


Freakz log: 5:51 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t2BPJA7Q9pf4gKy8#fight=last&&type=damage-done&&source=2

85 Stormstrike 19 Windstrike - 45 Stormbringer proc

Retail log: 5:58 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tca6QD3BFMZ8bjg9#fight=8&&type=damage-done&&source=11

133 Stormstrike 0 Windstrike - 87 Stormbringer proc



The number of pulls can go over and over and the dif will be the same. I will provide new logs after next raid.



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Post Posted: 17-09-2021, 15:43:15 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Keep it civil,

Any further comment which is not related to the topic will result in a warning.



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Post Posted: 17-09-2021, 23:54:05 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

all they do and delete our comments?
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Post Posted: 18-09-2021, 00:31:44 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mordocc wrote:
all they do and delete our comments?


GMs do have the right to delete negative comments that have nothing to do with the titled thread.

Also simply posting combat logs of two different specced enhancement shamans with different gear and stat set up isn't a very reliable way of proving your point.

There are just simply way too many variables to account when comparing in such way.



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Post Posted: 18-09-2021, 01:46:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

This is the most concludent way to prove, having almost same gear , because there are just minor diferences but a huge gap.


Enha don`t have any hotfix for this patch(there was overwhelm hotfix that affected shaman but it was meant for 8.2 so we have it now as it should be) esences with 8.2 values, talent spells are also real valued because there is no change from 8.2 to 8.3 for enha.


Similar stat with freakz being better geared(and higher haste with 300-400more than any other in those logs(2000 base haste for freakz shaman)


Bigger ilvl for freakz log


Exactly same azerite build(2x harmony 1 thunderan 1 resonance 1 rolling and 1xswirling(some have another trait instead of swirling but none of those increase haste or attack speed)


Exactly same talents build (one of these logs have 1 talent changed( wolfs instead of ascendance) which is minus for the proc rate and the player also has a lot more casts of ss/ws)


BotE as third essence is missing for freakz shaman log, but this is a 30-35% uptime with 600-700 haste which is hardly overpowered by the 300-400 haste dif also there are just half of the logs that use |CLF+IRIS+BOTE, some are just using CLF+IRIS+strife/ancient flame/lucid dreams and freakz shaman log is with CLF+IRIS


Gale-force with 30-40% uptime is a small increase because it only affect mele and dealing more mele = more procs but mele hits are about 5-10% of enha total attacks which proc ss => few melee attacks bonus from that is almost insignificat. At the end of the fight instead of 100 mele hit you will have 105? Wow, different build


Force multiplier = 170 haste= 2.5% on proc and has ~40% uptime. (1%haste = 68haste)


Also in only 2-3 parses ppl used harlan (which also has a haste+mastery proc to boost ss procs)

vs

Freakz build which was font+dice all the way(dice about 20% uptime and proc is 200 or 400 haste )



After all this being said, not gear or azerites or stats or talents differ from freakz to retail(slight gear/stats,advantage for freakz shaman, talking about base haste and haste gained from diferent sources), there are not so many variables left, pure rng can`t be happening again and again, pull by pull and to be on retail favor every time.


There was a confirmed trello post back in legion with this bug which is still unfixed, something about proc sequent but was forgotten for more than 1 year, since legion mod confirmed it.


P.S. Also i wanted coments deleted to keep the post clean because you saw how ppl react, and i want a clean topic here wihtout any drama, they were anyway going to delete some.

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Post Posted: 25-09-2021, 05:30:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FlRy6gmFEkU:


one example to help.
you can use on freakz at same status and azerites also talents.
you will see the big difference.

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Post Posted: 20-10-2021, 00:17:46 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

so any news about the person responsible for the class?
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Post Posted: 22-10-2021, 04:51:12 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YhG9NJR8zf1kZm2v#fight=9&&type=damage-done&&source=194

look at the cast amount of the main skill and if tested on freakz it won't have half of what is present in this log

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Post Posted: 22-10-2021, 12:15:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Stop comparing freakz with blizz logs,not even 1 class works the same.


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Post Posted: 22-10-2021, 22:33:39 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

ryangg wrote:
Stop comparing freakz with blizz logs,not even 1 class works the same.



don't give me that one.
if we Make a report asking for an improvement of a skill, they claim they can't do it because it doesn't have it in the original.

now you want to tell me that you can't use the original as a reference?



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Post Posted: 08-11-2021, 06:23:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

will they let the expansion end without checking?
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Post Posted: 08-11-2021, 23:44:02 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bigdick post and good proof for that and never fixed Shaman Enhancement

Great job!

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