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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 13:27:03 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48265 (wowhead link)

Descrierea bugului:
Haste bonus nu merge, doar daca schimb pe blood se schimba attack speed, daca dau pe frost presence sau unholy, attack speed e la fel.

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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 13:37:32 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Sunt eu orb sau nu scrie haste pe unholy presence? Nerd
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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 14:18:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

nici nu ar trebui unholy presence sa-ti deie haste.

fara suparare, dar ai facut 3 topicuri si nu ai adus dovezi la nici macar un topic.




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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 14:41:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I think it works but improved unholy doesn't




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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 14:45:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

that bugg doesn't have anything to do with unholy presence. it's talent bugg

by the way: what's your avrg. dps in unhol spec?y






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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 14:47:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bugghy wrote:
that bugg doesnt hae anything to do with unholy presence. it's talent bugg

by the way: what's your avrg. dps in unhol spec?y


I changed the post - saw that its not exactly for it and i will make a post with screenshots for improved soon. I dps-ed in unholy only 2 times so far just to try it - did 23 k in BH and 22 k on Valiona and Theralion ( 62k on Halfus but its too bugged so don't count), but i do a lot more in frost - over 30 k in BH and around 27 average on Valiona.





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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 14:50:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Unholy Presence Tooltip:
You are infused with unholy fury, increasing attack speed and rune regeneration by 10%, and movement speed by 15%, and reducing the global cooldown on your abilities by 0.5 sec. Only one Presence may be active at a time, and assuming a new Presence will consume any stored Runic Power.

Si nu am zis nimic legat de vre-un talent, am zis ca, cand schimb de pe frost presence in unholy presence, attack speed ramane la fel, doar daca dau pe blood am alt attack speed, eu fiind frost spec si fara puncte in improved presence.

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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 14:52:34 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

"increasing attack speed" nu "increasing haste"(sau ceva asemanator)



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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 15:05:28 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Bugghy wrote:
that bugg doesn't have anything to do with unholy presence. it's talent bugg

by the way: what's your avrg. dps in unhol spec?y


I tested improved unholy presence and i think its working just not showing in character tab - maybe because on freakz the line with rune regeneration haste is missing ... - and on haste is showed only % from gear and not calculated with talents and presences like on retail.





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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 15:10:57 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Haste formula: New Weapon Speed = Old Weapon Speed / (1 + (Haste in percent / 100))
The proof that Frost presence is bugged: http://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-1945315.html?highlight=frost+presence#1945315

Raxxar provided the screenshots: he has 16.83% haste, weapon has 3.6 speed
in Blood presence he should have: 3.6 / (1 + (16.83 / 100)) => 3.08 speed. Well guess what, that's exactly how much he has!

in Frost presence he should have the same as in blood presence: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48266 (wowhead link) try to read the tooltip...rune regeneration isn't melee attack speed. This presence is bugged as stated in the link above.

in unholy presence he should have: 3.08 / ( 1 + (15 / 100)) => 2.678 with improved unholy presence(extra 5% melee attack speed). Exactly how much he has !

In unholy presence without talents he should have: 3.08 / ( 1 + (10 / 100)) => 2.80 speed. If my eyes are not mistaken, that's true.

So, now my question: Where is the so called bug to unholy presence?!

Si ca sa intreb si pe romaneste, unde este bugul ? in frost si blood presence trebuie sa ai acelasi attack speed si voi nu aveti asa. Cum puteti spune ca unholy presence e buguita ? oare ganditi ce scrieti....

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Post Posted: 13-05-2012, 15:19:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Mr.Faith wrote:
Haste formula: New Weapon Speed = Old Weapon Speed / (1 + (Haste in percent / 100))
The proof that Frost presence is bugged: http://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-1945315.html?highlight=frost+presence#1945315

Raxxar provided the screenshots: he has 16.83% haste, weapon has 3.6 speed
in Blood presence he should have: 3.6 / (1 + (16.83 / 100)) => 3.08 speed. Well guess what, that's exactly how much he has!

in Frost presence he should have the same as in blood presence: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=48266 (wowhead link) try to read the tooltip...rune regeneration isn't melee attack speed. This presence is bugged as stated in the link above.

in unholy presence he should have: 3.08 / ( 1 + (15 / 100)) => 2.678 with improved unholy presence(extra 5% melee attack speed). Exactly how much he has !

In unholy presence without talents he should have: 3.08 / ( 1 + (10 / 100)) => 2.80 speed. If my eyes are not mistaken, that's true.

So, now my question: Where is the so called bug to unholy presence?!

Si ca sa intreb si pe romaneste, unde este bugul ? in frost si blood presence trebuie sa ai acelasi attack speed si voi nu aveti asa. Cum puteti spune ca unholy presence e buguita ? oare ganditi ce scrieti....


If someone again want the screenshots i will post them, but deleted cause i saw my mistake and edited previous posts.
About frost presence i think https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=50887 (wowhead link) is messing with it .



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