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Post Posted: 30-08-2015, 18:43:48 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=117013&&name=primal-elementalist
Bug description: The elementals will intrerupt Reinforce and Empower to position themselves to the left of the caster, shouldn't be the case, they should stay still when channeling empower/reinforce.
Proof:
I'm using this macro to summon my fire and earth elemental and instantly cast empower/reinforce

#showtooltip Fire Elemental Totem
/cast Fire Elemental Totem
/petpassive
/cast Empower

the problem is when i summon them , they instantly intrerrupt their own cast to position themselves somewhere to my left

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gUjUz-bz9IY:


retail video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uMHA66F_bBM:


@4:12
@9:43
as you can see he's spamming that button but when the elemental got summoned he stays still channeling reinforce

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Edited in english.
Still waiting for a gm to either confirm or reject this, it's been @pending for a long long time.
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Post Posted: 31-08-2015, 20:29:24 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Nu mai postati buguri fara proofs, lasati duma cu "test it yourself". Se intrerupe doar cand nu e in combat, not sure if blizzlike or not

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Post Posted: 01-09-2015, 13:30:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Iti explic pe babeste sa intelegi...deci eu folosesc un macro pentru pets sa casteze automat reinforce/empower dupa summon

#showtooltip Fire Elemental Totem
/cast Fire Elemental Totem
/petpassive
/cast Empower
(trebuie apasat de 2 ori)

problema e uramtoarea , cand dai summon la pet si castezi reinforce se intrerupe instant, proof here:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gUjUz-bz9IY:



retail video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uMHA66F_bBM:


@4:12
@9:43
se vede cum apasa acel macro de mai multe ori dar totemul nu isi intrerupt channeling-ul

ps:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=N40YdqPP30k:


@6:54 no combat, fire ele still channeling empower
p.s2: Ambii au HP prea putin si nu cred ca au avoidance aka mor instant la orice aoe da un boss.



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Post Posted: 02-09-2015, 10:07:47 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I've tested the empored Fire-Elemental yesterday different times, with different shamans on the server.
The empowered Fire-Elemental Autohits do 1 Damage to Players (Duell) and NPCs(PvE) and his abilities done in a whole bossfight (Scholomance) 12000 Damage (Elemental was summoned and attacking the whole duration of the Totem).

The normal Fire-Elemental seem to me as working as well, so it does more damage as the empowered one, which should be 80% stronger^^

If you need a proof, I can give you Screenshots.

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Post Posted: 02-09-2015, 11:12:59 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

First of all, let's take a look at the default Fire Elemental:

You can see there his damage on all of this abilities: Fire Nova, Fire Blast, Immolation (not sure if that's it's name) and melee autoattacks.
Now, for Primal Fire Elemental:


His Fire Nova, Fire Blast and Immolation deal terribly low damage, and most of the classic Elemental's attacks were around 35,000. Considering that, Primal Fire Elemental should deal around 63000 melee autoattack damage, not Physical, but Fire (you can see in the first screenshot, Fire Elemental's melee damage is red-colored, Fire damage).
MATH TIME:
Classic Fire Elemental's Fire Blast deals 1+42,9% of your SP as damage. I have 25210 @ full non-upgraded BIS. That means it should deal 10816,5 Fire damage. I'll now add another 80% to calculate Primal Elemental's Fire Blast damage. It should be 19469.
I couldn't find coeffs for Fire Nova or its Immolate though.



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Post Posted: 06-10-2015, 07:00:26 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

BUMP!


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Post Posted: 03-11-2015, 14:56:06 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

After more tests, Primal Elemental's damage seems to scale fine with proccs, but it doesn't scale with haste and it keeps missing/getting parried/dodged.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EIynoT327L4:

35:20 Look at how fast that Elemental is autoattacking, also his spells reset his autoattack timer I believe. In addition to that, the Elemental should automatically move to the back of the target and stick to that point, like all pets and guardians.
Let's do some tests on Freakz:

^Full haste^

^ After test. He missed 1 hit, got dodged and parried 4 times. I added 35,000 for each missed hit (that's his average damage). The result should be 1,04M damage.

^ Removed haste and went back to full mastery

^ After test. He missed two hits, and dealt one crit. I added 35,000 again for each missed hit and halved the critical to 36,000. The result should be around 1,04M damage (more or slightly less).
Had serious haste differences. Did I forgot to say they miss/get parried/dodged?
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Post Posted: 03-11-2015, 15:30:17 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 01-12-2015, 13:39:49 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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Post Posted: 04-12-2015, 14:07:21 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

STILL NOTHING - si totusi, de ce nu a intrat Orga in discute, inca?
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Post Posted: 04-12-2015, 14:22:36 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I gave what i found to ticho and he posted it alongside what he found , do you think it would actually help if i posted here aswell...?

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Post Posted: 15-01-2016, 17:03:13 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Also another bug, Harden Skin the buff is applied to the Elemental pet instead of the caster.
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