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Post Posted: 01-05-2016, 18:13:53 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=2062&&name=earth-elemental-totem
Bug description: Elemental should not give Miss / immune / dodge / parry etc.As you can see in these images , Earth Elemental can miss, dodge, parry etc and in this video you can see that elementals ( both ) do not give Miss , parry , dodge because it benefits from not hit cap or something.Same problem at https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=2894&&name=fire-elemental-totem
Proof: http://imgur.com/pQ7Y5kx
http://imgur.com/Y3pnV2v
http://imgur.com/7vOmQUZ
EDIT:I was looking for some proofs but I think elementals can miss/dodge/parry etc.I'm not sure.
Proof:https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/3430934960
,,elemental inflict fire damage, but they're resolved as an ordinary white-damage auto-attack—they can miss, be dodged, be parried, be blocked'' http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_table



And video with prof for ,,no miss/parry/dodge'' https://youtube.com/watch?v=b0Y3gpxdDqg:




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Post Posted: 02-05-2016, 22:01:37 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Totems are still getting misses, confirmed, and Elementals are getting parried/dodged.
As about the Fire Elemental, I strongly believe his attacks should damage physical immunity as his damage is FIRE-type. But I'm not sure and I won't get into that.



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Post Posted: 25-11-2016, 17:21:42 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

I don't understand, what's the ACTUAL PROOF that they shouldn't miss? Just a random video where the elemental happened to not miss?

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Post Posted: 25-11-2016, 19:40:55 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Elementals should not miss because we(shamans elemental) don't have expertise.Is hard to find a video, but I've got 2 logs from Blizzard@best shamans elemental and in this images, you can see on Melee hit@Elementals:
1)The elemental from Makker-119 melee atack and 0 miss/dodge/parry.
2)The elemental from Eireniajr-111 melee atack and 0 miss/dodge/parry.
That's for the moment, I'll come later with some proof from MMO Champions and probably a video from Blizzard
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/T16PajQK4yYpnwg2#fight=11&&type=damage-done&&source=50&&ability=1
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/T16PajQK4yYpnwg2#fight=11&&type=damage-done&&source=39&&ability=1


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Post Posted: 26-11-2016, 13:32:16 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Yeah totems do not benefit from hit. (Haste as well)
On my enhancer shaman with 3% melee hit and 14% spell hit my totems miss sometimes in PvP, while even 6% spell hit should be enough for them not to miss.
Here are some proofs: http://imgur.com/a/QSXJ2

Elementals should probably still get parried/dodged and blocked, I don't see why they shouldn't.

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Post Posted: 26-11-2016, 16:15:08 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Dodge/parry are from Expertise cap, but elementals do not benefit from this stat.... so they shouldn't block and stuff like that.

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Post Posted: 29-11-2016, 13:50:38 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

Fire elemental can not dodge or parry as his attacks are supposed to be purely fire damage based, thus having no connection whatsoever to expertise. They inherit the shaman's hit rating. It's pretty straight forward.

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Post Posted: 11-01-2017, 18:38:41 | Translate post to: ... (Click for more languages)

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