[Warrior][Fury] Bloodthirst+Recklessness crit calculation problem

[Depression]

WoW Freakz spell link: https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=23881+ and https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=1719&&name=recklessness
Bug description: bloodthirst's crit + recklessness doesnt work properley together. got %46.39 normal crit chance it means %92.78 bloodthirst crit chance + %30 recklessness crit chance so it means %122.78 crit chance but still sometimes bloodthirst doesnt crit during recklessness
Proof:

[Scott]

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-4805709.html?highlight=bloodthrist

[Depression]

Scott wrote:

https://forum.wow-freakz.com/view-post-4805709.html?highlight=bloodthrist

i just calculated it truely and still its bugged. read that topic again pls he made it wrong thats why they reject it.

[Seyrox]

Bloodthirst's double crit is calculated without Recklessness. So if you face 49.5% crit , BT will have 99% chance, and with recklessness you will have the same amount. Read tooltip.



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[Depression]

Seyrox wrote:

Bloodthirst's double crit is calculated without Recklessness. So if you face 49.5% crit , BT will have 99% chance, and with recklessness you will have the same amount. Read tooltip.

it just say bloodthirst got 2x normal crit chance it doesnt say bloodthirst doesnt get effected from recklessness also read recklessness's tooltip it says recklessness increase special attack's crit chance and bloodthirst is a specail attack
so bloodthirst + recklessness should work like that
2x normal crit chance + %30 recklessness

also even gm madau says it works like dat
https://forum.wow-freakz.com/REJECTED-Warrior-fury-Spell-Bloodthirst-Recklessness-t384158.html

[Erudax]

How about this? Could the 3% crit chance reduction be in effect here?
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/13021462137

[Scott]

It works fine, also idk what tests did he did, in the screen with reck he has 41% crit...

[tudor1297]

This bug report linked by Scott was saying something else and it was wrong, please read carefully what Depression wrote.

Seyrox wrote:

Bloodthirst's double crit is calculated without Recklessness. So if you face 49.5% crit , BT will have 99% chance, and with recklessness you will have the same amount. Read tooltip.

Yeah, but it is 99% normal chance for Bloodthirst + 30% chance from Recklessness (which affects all special attacks, Bloodthirst included), smartass.


And it's not from crit depression @ ticho, you can see why below.
The crit from recklesness is not shown in char sheet, so if he had 41% in char sheet that's his normal crit chance that should get doubled => 82% chance + reck => over 100% chance, and no crit

Something is definetly wrong, I noticed it too. I wanted to post this some time ago but i stopped playing and i forgot 'bout it. I even made a video, here:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=owj-PnrcxY8:



You can see i have 44% crit
44% - 3% from crit depression -> 41% (the crit depression is applied before BT doubles the crit - http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/13021462137)
double from bloothirst => 82%
82% + 30% from reck => 112% crit chance and it didn't crit

And it happens very often, I'm not sure why
Might be from BT, might be from Recklesness mechanic (as I said, that 30% crit is not shown in the char sheet and it only affects special attacks), form their interaction or there might be some hidden mechanic preventing players to have 100% crit chance (like a crit chance cap or smth)
However i noticed that when this happens, usually it's more than 1 Bloothirst during Reck's duration that won't crit.

I must mention that part of that 44% crit in the video is from a trinket proc, however I tested with a Bis Warrior that has a lot more crit with no procs and I can assure you the same thing happens there as well, I can make another video if you don't like this one.



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[Depression]

Scott wrote:

It works fine, also idk what tests did he did, in the screen with reck he has 41% crit...

@ scott D realy do u have any idea about recklessness ? recklessness doesnt show on stats cuz it doesnt give %30 crit chance for all melee attacks it just effect for speacial attacks smartass at least learn something about recklessness before reject. if u try it in game u ll see that , it is not so hard

@erudax lets calculate with your -%3 crit chance mechanic still i have more than 100 crit. i have %41 crit without recklessness 41 crit chance - %3 crit reduce mechanic 38x2 = 76 Bloodthirst crit chance + %30 recklessness
= %106 bloodthirst crit chance even with crit reduce mechanic i have more than % +100 crit chance its a certain bug.

[saturnfever]

still having issues with this. In full burst, with recklessness up and 45% base crit, in Siege of Orgrimmar gear, i'm still not crit-ing, just normal hit with bloodthirst.

[saturnfever]

How Bloodthirst should work:
1. You have 40% crit chance in your character sheet stats.
2. Your crit chance gets reduced by 3% from the boss effect http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/13021462137 (you now have 37% crit chance)
3. 37% x 2 = 74% crit chance.
4. 74% + 30% critical strike chance from recklessness = 104% critical chance. (even if the -3% crit chance would apply for Recklessness, which it shouldn't, you will still have 101% critical chance, and it still be a guaranteed critical)

Proof that it doesn't work correctly, and I don't crit with Bloodthirst, even though it should be a guaranteed crit while Recklessness is up, in these conditions:
http://imgur.com/a/uyTWz (2 hits, not crits, first for 66731 damage, and the 2nd for 34660)

Confirmed.