[Raid] The Nighthold: Elisande

[Elvenking]

Ok, this is now a visual bug, but please take it serious because it disturbs many people here and also leads to wipes from not seeing orbs correctly.

Basically there are some strange purple/pink lights on the ceiling of the room which constantly block parts of your vision.
Especially if you move the camera overhead with maximum zoom out it is really annoying.

On retail these lights are not present, maybe they are much higher in the room to not get into field of vision or part of some animation which should disappear.

Proof freakz:
Image 1 - lights seem to be attached to the pillar in the middle

Spoiler:

Image 2 - Pink beam blocking part of vision

Spoiler:

Image 3 - Pink beam blocking all vision while dodging orbs

Spoiler:

Retail:

Spoiler:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sXYgdiKH2Rg:

At 0:48 you see the pillar in the middle just straight goes up with nothing attached to it.
At 0:57 he moves camera overhead to better dodge orbs, nothing blocks the vision.

I hope you can fix this so we have a clear vison on progressing this boss.

UPDATE 14-03:
Here you can perfectly see difference

Freakz:

Spoiler:

Retail:

Spoiler:

[Apheks]

Fountain prevents you from casting all ground-target spells such as: Starfall,earthquake and such. IT acts as if i'm in los.

[CocoDev]

Elvenking wrote:

Ok, this is now a visual bug, but please take it serious because it disturbs many people here and also leads to wipes from not seeing orbs correctly. Basically there are some strange purple/pink lights on the ceiling of the room which constantly block parts of your vision. Especially if you move the camera overhead with maximum zoom out it is really annoying. On retail these lights are not present, maybe they are much higher in the room to not get into field of vision or part of some animation which should disappear. Proof freakz: Image 1 - lights seem to be attached to the pillar in the middle Spoiler: Image 2 - Pink beam blocking part of vision Spoiler: Image 3 - Pink beam blocking all vision while dodging orbs Spoiler: Retail: Spoiler: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sXYgdiKH2Rg: At 0:48 you see the pillar in the middle just straight goes up with nothing attached to it. At 0:57 he moves camera overhead to better dodge orbs, nothing blocks the vision. I hope you can fix this so we have a clear vison on progressing this boss. UPDATE 14-03: Here you can perfectly see difference Freakz: Spoiler: Retail: Spoiler:

Fixed

[Elvenking]

I know we already killed the boss and you might not want to nerf it anymore, but there is still one bug that bothers me a little.

In phase 2 the arcanetic ring or delphuric beam timer are not correct at some point, which makes this boss incredibly hard if you don't have more dps than retail players had at this moment.

The problem is, if you watch some kill videos of her in mythic the transistion from phase 1 to 2 is in general with 4 clones.
This means you have 4 times the ring there, but there the problem starts. Until the 3rd ring all is perfect, then you get the 2nd delphuric beam and even before this beam is finished she uses her 4th arcanetic ring which most probably wipe you all the time.
Normally the ring should come like 3-5 seconds later, exactly when the beam has finished, even fatboss guide explains this particular crunchpoint of the fight.

Proof freakz:

Spoiler:

In this screen you see the 2nd set of dephuric beams in phase 2, with overlaping ring number 4 before the dmg of beam goes off.
Note that this is the 2nd cast of the 2nd beam, so it is really about 3-5 seconds.

Proof retail:
In fatboss guide you can hear him saying this:

Quote:

10:35 "As soon as the beams have finished you get the last set of rings"

Just watch this point of the guide and see how rings spawn exactly after the dmg of beam goes off.

Spoiler:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zmCzULD5LqE:

2nd proof retail:
Elisandre mythic world first kill by serenity
Watch the video at 4:46, same situaton beam dmg and after it the orbs spawn.

Spoiler:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wSbHnrrixgk:

This makes the boss in general very rng and frustrating to progress at this point.

[Arhas11]

I want to start by saying it has NOTHING to do with the previous post which is about the fact that u don't get the debuff while u stay in the bubble. I just used the same video, as I captured both bugs in it. Even if you fix that bug, this wont change one bit, and it's not sometimes anymore. I was basicly useless on HC run with BM on that fight as none of my Dire Beast's reduced the CD of Bestial Wrath...



WoW Freakz spell link:
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=120679&&&&name=dire-beast
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=231548&&&&name=bestial-wrath
https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=209166&&&&name=fast-time

Bug description: Dire Beast sometimes doesn't reduce the CD of Bestial Wrath when you have Fast Time buff on Elisandre's fight.

Proof: https://youtube.com/watch?v=suejMqOXNrQ:

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[Brigadee]

We cannot heal the other players from the other side of the fountain, LoS problems over there.

Also, the Arcaneting Rings's speed should be even more reduced once they get into the slow bubble.


Holy Paladin 7.1.5 Guide

[Nightraider]

Death grip not work anymore on red clone. It worked until last week but now is immune, just on blue one should be immune.

[DoesMyNameMatter]

https://www.wow-freakz.com/spells.php?spell=191427 (wowhead link) -> cd doesn't get properly lowered by the red bubble . There are times where Chaos Blades and Nemesis come back of cooldown and metamorphosis still has 2 minutes cd . With the gear i'm using it shouldn't be over 30 seconds .

[Pinocchio Evreiesc]

Is spanning singularity working properly? I saw some video from this server where ppl just stand in it, it shrinks super fast which is ok i guess since its affected by fast/slow, but it deals almost no damage (no cds no shields etc) it should do crazy fast damage on the player if he has fast debuff.

Also the singularities are supposed to echo in each subsequent phase but they dont. 3 abilities create echoes of elisande when she uses them, those are the rings, the singularity and the epocheric orbs, therefore singularities should echo into next phases and be placed exactly where they were placed in the previous phase, doesnt matter if you soak them. I think it makes the fight significantly easier by not caring where you place those (since on retail you had to bait the boss to place them where you wanted) and mistakes with placing the singularities are basically not punished at all.

[Victoor]

Pinocchio Evreiesc wrote:

Is spanning singularity working properly? I saw some video from this server where ppl just stand in it, it shrinks super fast which is ok i guess since its affected by fast/slow, but it deals almost no damage (no cds no shields etc) it should do crazy fast damage on the player if he has fast debuff. Also the singularities are supposed to echo in each subsequent phase but they dont. 3 abilities create echoes of elisande when she uses them, those are the rings, the singularity and the epocheric orbs, therefore singularities should echo into next phases and be placed exactly where they were placed in the previous phase, doesnt matter if you soak them. I think it makes the fight significantly easier by not caring where you place those (since on retail you had to bait the boss to place them where you wanted) and mistakes with placing the singularities are basically not punished at all.

We heavily tested spanning singularity echo before releasing the boss and it 100% works, orbs as well. Can you bring a proof that they do not spawn accordingly?

[venam92]

im not sure if its a bug but the circle in the middle should it have los? When i said it to my raid group they said that they dont have los when dpsing but i cant heal people if they are on the other side same as tichondrius when pillers spawn.

[CocoDev]

venam92 wrote:

im not sure if its a bug but the circle in the middle should it have los? When i said it to my raid group they said that they dont have los when dpsing but i cant heal people if they are on the other side same as tichondrius when pillers spawn.

Unfortunately, it has LoS for healing.

[ktoto666]

Arcanetic Ring's speed is sorta bugged, should be much slower:

Spoiler:

Retail:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DyKiq-6eBkY&t=103:

Spoiler:

Freakz:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vQdAg3bHcFY:

Arcanetic Ring's (or Ephocheric Orb's) timer on phase 2 is also broken, after the first set of orbs fall, ring spawns after 10s on retail, and on freakz it spawns right after the orbs hit the ground, making it difficult to reach safe-spot:

Spoiler:

Retail:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jNMVA1oErtw&t=179:

Spoiler:

Freakz:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NCf7ySUDjko:

[Mind]

Serendipity interaction with; Fast Time buff, Slow Time buff

Class: Priest
Spec: Holy

Holy Word: Sanctify
- Serendipity doesn't trigger around 8 seconds remaining on Holy Word: Sanctify's CD while Fast Time buff is active (and shortly afterwards).
- Once using spells that trigger Serendipity (e.g. Prayer of Healing), Holy Word: Sanctify shows as castable (no CD) but unable to use for a period of time while Slow Time buff is active.

Word: Serenity
- Increases CD on the initial cast from a spell that triggers Serendipity (e.g. Flash Heal) while Slow Time buff is active.

Holy Word: Sanctify's CD not getting reduced example:

Spoiler:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4-ebaptKDy8:


@0:22 Prayer of Healing and Prayer of Mending not reducing CD on Holy Word: Sanctify

Retail boss fight from holy priest PoV for reference:

Spoiler:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CQpaN5b4Kz4:

[sadolock]

Elisande's Arcanetic Rings (not sure if it's this one exactly) should make the rogues that pass through them with Cloak of Shadows active, to be immune to damage, the rings doing Arcane (magic) damage. Unfortunately, on Freakz, you'll get damage / or results death.

Retail example: here + own experience.


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